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G'DAY GEOFF,
MY NAME IS MAL VEIGEL
I WORKED FOR BARRY FROM 76 TO 78.
IF THE GUN HAS THE 77 NORTH STREET
ADDRESS ON IT.
IT WAS MADE ARFTER 1973 AS BARRY
SET UP HIS SHOP AND FACTORY
IN NORTH STREET IN AN OLD WEATHERBOARD
HOUSE IN LATE 73.
HE PROBABLE SHAPED IT. IT'S HIS
SPRAY WORK .AROUND THAT TIME HE DID MOST OF
THE WORK ON THE BOARDS HIMSELF.A
TOP BLOKE .
A GREAT SHAPER COULD COPY ANY BODY'S
BOARDS FOR THEM.
76 FROGGY BURNS (HE CHANGED THE
SPELLING WHEN HE STARTED SHAPING BOARDS
FOR
THE BYRNES BROTHERS IN 78.)WAS
DOING SOME SHAPING FOR BARRY WHILE I WAS
DOING
THE SANDING AND DING REPAIRS.
YOU CHASE UP SOME HISTORY ON THE
SOUTH COAST BOARD BUILDERS.
ANOTHER BLOKE WHO WORKED WITH US
WAS VICTOR TURK ?
HE STARTED BUSH SURF CO.
REGARDS,
MAL
PS KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
Reply
Mal,
Many thanks for your interest and information.
I have readjusted the date for #159 to
1973 and added your (slightly edited) comments
with a credit.
Follow Up
05.08.2001:
G'DAY GEOFF,
I WAS WRONG ABOUT FROGGY'S SPELLING.
WHEN HE SHAPED AT BARRY'S HE HAD DECALS
FOR THE BOARDS HE SHAPED IT HAD HIS
NAME SPELLED BURNS (A PRINTING STUFF UP).
MAL
Regards,
David DiRado
Reply
David,
General
Fluid Foils was a decal/label used by
Shane Surfboards about 1977-8 for Channel Beetail (triple flyer pin or
round tail) models by Jim Pollard. This was after Col Smith (Newcastle)
won a Pipeline Masters riding one.
The design was also manufactured at the
same time by Free Flight Surfboards Ballina
by Phil Myers. These were decaled as Col
Smith Channel Design - see Catalogue :
1979 #64, from #64 comments... Jim Pollard/Col
Smith (Newcastle)'s Channel bottom design.
Jim Pollard was originally inspired
by an article, ''Groove Ridge Theory'' by Jim
Richardson and Art Shafer (both USA),
circa 1975 and possibly printed in Surfer or
Surfing magazine. It detailed experiments
using flexible polyurethane rubber ridges
stuck to the bottom. It concluded that
it improved lift and increased directional stability
arcoss a range of designs and lengths.
In 1976 -1977 at Noosa Queensland, Jim
Pollard had developed a conventional pintail
with six(some eight) channels nose to
tail, running parrallel to the rails and
exiting at matching flyers. This model test ridden
by Peter Cornish, Steven Butterworth and
Col Smith, all Newcastle surfers. By 1979
the design was modified to straight channels
(parrallel to stringer) in the rear 2/3rd,
still exiting at the flyers. This design
had international exposure with successful
contest results by Col Smith (Newcastle),
notably a win in the Pipeline Masters in
1979? It was manufactuered in Australia
by both Shane Surfboards, Brookvale (Jim
Pollard Fluid Foils) and Free Flight Surfboards,
Ballina (Col Smith Channel
Designs).
From the 1978 Channels were common
features on a variety of designs, for example
the small flutes on some Mark Richards
Twin fins -see #40, and Laurie/Phil Byrne's
Clinker Botton Twin fin, circa 1981. Present
on many Single,Twin and Thruster fin
boards of the period, they also appeared
on kneeboards (-see #58) and sailboards.
The Channels became more subtle
features through the 1980's, virtually
disappearing from design by 1990.
Note 1. Channels could be seen as
a specific application of concave theory.
Note 2. Design precedent : Greg
Noll Surfboards 'da Cat' model 1967, see
Schiffer, Nancy N; :
Surfing
Schiffer Publishing Ltd. 4880
Lower Valley Road Atglen PA 19310 1998 page 67
Your Board
Probably a later period 1979-1980 board
from Shane Surfboards, Brookvale. Four
channels are unusual, they started at
eight and became less radical over time. Could be
shaped by anyone working at Shane's at
the time - if shaped by Jm Pollard more likely
to have a decal saying such somewhere
on the board - clean around stringer/tail and
have a good look for pencil marks, they
may be even under some spray colour.
Some dimensons may have been of interest,
also fin template photo. You could clean
the wax off next time you take deck photos.
Hope this has been of some assistance,
Geoff
Paipo # 204
05.08.2001
Dear Geoff The photo at bottom of page
of a bellyboard rider is me, Leigh Tingle. Taken at Haliewa
Oahu January 1964 using the existing
balsa fibreglass bellyboard made by Scott Dillon, Noel Ward
and Gordon Woods in February 1958.
It is now 43 years old and still going strong. If I remember
correctly it was from the Surfabout
magazine. A replica has just been finsihed by my son Sam for a
school Tutot\r Task. Regards Leigh
Tingle
Reply
Dear Leigh,
Many thanks for your information, I have
been hopefully awaiting further contact from you
about your board. I have constantly have
had email problems and had lost your address.
I have added your credited comments to
the photo on #113, and at #204 where the
photo is used again.
Have made sure i have your address and
will be in contact.
Geoff Cater
Sorry - half of the above is wrong
: There are two (2) Peter Cornish's ...
According to Surfing
World magazine Vol 12 No. 2, page 11 circa 1969 ...
One was working for Shane Surfboards and
the other was in Newcastle shaping as
Peter Cornish Surfboards. I am unable
to say who did what, it is possible that your
boards are from two different shapers!
The Boards (Photographs would help)
1. 6' 6" pintail : could be as early
as 1969, but as late as 1980. Consider...
Width - the wider the earlier
Thickness - the thicker the earlier
Fin Box - later than 1973
Glass - Volan rail overlaps, before 1973
Decor - resin tints/pigments before 1972
- spray colour after 1972. Does decor look like custom order
or stock board?
Leg rope plug - if factory fitted then
after 1975/6
Clean wax and look for markings
small sticker that says "shaped by Peter
Cornish" with a bird logo at either end : this could be best clue if you
could find a board or magazine advertisement that uses the same logo
2. 6'6" as well and is a swallow tail
single fin : could be as early as 1972, but as late as 1980. Consider...
Decal - if not standard Bennet Diamond
could assist to date board
Flyers - usually with swallow tail
Width - the wider the earlier
Thickness - the thicker the earlier
Fin Box - later than 1973
Glass - Volan rail overlaps, before 1973
Decor - resin tints/pigments before 1972
- spray colour after 1972.
Does decor look like custom order or stock
board?
Leg rope plug - if factory fitted then
after 1975/6
Clean wax and look for markings
See if you can make any sense of this,
hope it has been some help.
Geoff Cater
Sympathy and Understanding : I have
been struggling with technical disasters
myself, multiple
crashes in January 2001 meant the
loss of a total rework of the site (6 months work)
and mulptiple
loss of Bookmarks, Addressbooks
and email files. I was able to download the original
work from
the sever and after changing severs,
the reformated version was uploaded, another
six months later
in July. It was only then, when
checking my uploads, that I realised the
non-appearrance of The
Waterlog.
Message 2 : The links do not work
in first email, if this is not right let me know and I will
try again.
Hey Geoff,
The revamp is going pretty well, thanks
for the kind offer of help, there're
quite a few books that you cite, that
I haven't. I'll probably leave it like that (no sense
re-inventing the wheel, as they say),
so I can point people to your site, which I've enjoyed
often. Great work, really clean layout, which I'm always appreciative of...
As I'm working on the links page of my
site, I'm wondering if there's a logo/image
you'd like me to use for the link to you.
I've designed my page as to display small
banner-format images of the various logos,
with text desription underneath.
Shall I use the 'boards`primates.jpg'
that's on your pages? And do you prefer
surfresearch.com.au,
or pods for primates? I love that phrase,
but it seems to apply more to the boards
section
rather than the whole site, so I'm not
sure...
Other questions: Have you done much research
into the surf fiction side? There's a few
Australian titles I've heard about, but
not seen. "Hot Sands" by Bruce Beaver is one.
Also, I've come across an Australian edition
of one of the (U.S.) "Operation Hang 10"
series, and am wondering if they all were
released there. A secret agent series, 9 titles
total,
written by Patrick Morgan.
That's about it for now, I have the articles
section redone, and most of the books
section, and
am adding a separate "Surfploitation"
section (formerly Surf Sleaze) as well as galleries
of covers,
comics, and advertisements...Phew! I'll
let you know when it's all loaded up.
Best,
Daved Marsh
New Oceanic Surfboards
Re: QUESTION FOR THE HISTORY GURU Mon,
22 Oct 2001
Hi Geoff,
I was at the STOMP pointscore yeasterday
and one of the guys had just got
hold of an old mal. It looks to
me to be '65-'66 vintage, although a little
difficult to tell becasue the fin appears
to have been re-foiled to
something you are more likely to see on
a '67-'68 'end of the era' type
board.
The brand is (Custom board by) New Oceanic.
On the stringer at the tail is
pencilled 996 (so presumably they made
a few boards), Gill (purchaser /
shaper?) and 9'3". It also has a
Waverley Beach permit sticker (sorry can't
remember the year) on the nose.
Have you come across this manufacturer in your research???
Regards, Geoff Smith
Reply
Geoff,
I have no knowledge of this label.
Permit date would be a good indication
of manufacture date.
I have added this to the shapers/manufacturers
list on the web page so something may turn up in the future.
Also, have added Bill Morris's G&S
Bobby Brown model to the catalogue #157, but have a few missing details,
mostly about the fin.
Also, also, I came across a 1974 -1978
? Skipp single fin, spray foil deck in very battered condition with shapers
label "Kevin Parkinson". From memory someone in the DV8's had an interest
in Kevin's boards but I was not sure if this one qualifies.
Geoff
REPLY
John , sorry for this long delay.
Alison Lee's email is alisonjlee@optusnet.com.au
- attempted three times to insert as link, obviously unsuccessfully.
Your's is #1 in a large pile of surf email
to tbe attempted this weekend,
Alison changed her address in Jan 2002,
and I will add your request to my reply
to her notification email - about #17.
I haved added a paragraph about Stan to
#146 (edited and credited) which will be uploaded soon.
Please report any problems or diffficulties.
Thank you for your interest, Geoff.
jarmanplatt@tac.com.au 10.29.02
jarmanplatt wrote:
Geoff I've tried e-mailing you some imfo about the King step tail . I received your e-mail with the photo attached. I understand you must be busy and may have not had a chance to reply, or possibly the e-mail did not arrive at your end. Please let me know and I will send the e-mai l to you. David.
Ed wrote:
Hi Geoff, Can you advise me where I might be able to hold of a copy of the 1982 Storm Riders Hoole / McCoy Video? Kind Regards,Ed ScheepmakerDirectorBeach Bums Pty Ltd
Stephen P. Taranto wrote
Dear Geoff, This site is very impressive and the most comprehensive site of it's kind that I have come across. Hours of enjoyment and nostalgia! It is also an excellent reference source for future development. "....in order to move forward, you must occasionally look back......", don't know exactly who said that, but I think it is quite true. In the early 80's I worked for surfboard manufacturer, "Sea Level", Brighton, Victoria. The owner, Rod Stock, was a civil engineer and thus a bit of a technocrat. He did a great deal of experimental/development work with surfboard shapes. From the very early 70's to the present. Example ,he used to have a CAD CAM fin foiling machine in the mid 80's. We spent a lot of time maintaining the rage against the "thruster". Twin fins, wide based (keel) fin twinnies, four fins, twin fins with stabiliser fin, single fins etc., various channel bottoms I actually still have a just a few of the boards that we made 20 years ago and I also have quite a few photographs of others. I am sure he has quite a few photographs too. I might be able to encourage him to make some of those available also. If you are interested, I would love to add them to your catalogue, with a bit of background information. What resolution do the pics need to be scanned at? I will try to follow your format and send one or two that I have on hand. e you later Stephen TarantoPeth, W.A. since 2000
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Hi just letting you know the latest update, Renowned in the surfing industry for producing the hugely successful POD handboard, POD Design has unveiled its hottest new product - the POD surfing fins. Designed for surfers, body boarders to body surfers and, of course, POD handboard enthusiasts, the POD fins are set to take wave-riding to new heights around the globe. Pod fins are manufactured in Australia using the "new pod method of construction" Consisting of different natural buoyant rubber compounds laminated together. A unique feature of each fin is the splay rails, which 'fan' the water outwards, making it easier to kick. These rails, combined with the symmetric blade on the front of each fin, provide excellent balance, directed thrust, greater speed and a more powerful kick. The cutting-edge shape of each fin also helps wearers to refine their wave-holding technique and stability in the water. The gills in the POD fins were designed to ensure rapid water and sand release from the foot pocket. The pocket itself has been carefully engineered for a soft and comfortable fit, while consistent sizing means surfers can now find the perfect fins for their feet. "Anthony and I didn't just design the POD fin to look good - the working fundamentals are there as well," says Vassallo. "Each fin has a unique design from the centre and is actually intended to become an extension of the foot when you're in the water. The aim is for wearers to benefit from the extra speed and performance, but be hardly aware that they're wearing fins at all." The POD fins are available in dark blue with a distinctive yellow foot pocket. >From all good surf shops at a RRP of $90. For more information please go to www.podfins.com.au Thank you Shane Vassallo
3. Hi Geoff, Thank you for updating you web site, there seems to be an error the link "url" the address should be http://www.podhandboards.com/ regards shane Pod Design Pty. Ltd. Ph: +61 2 96611996 Fax: +61 2 96611997 Mobile: +61 2 0412 89 2000 www.podfins.com.au www.podhandboards.com
Hi Geoff First time I've been to your site. I like it. I held that Barry Taylor in my own hands at that second hand shop in Nowra. It was April 2000. I was on my way home from a disastrous trip to Victoria. I spent my last $30 on a "South of the Border" twinnie when the lady in the second hand shop in Nowra said...."oh and I have another board under the house which you might like". She brought it back and my face must have told a story. She offered it to me for $65 before I actually saw it and then another woman walks into the shop and says to her...."Ring my husband..he'll tell you what it's worth". Suddenly it was no longer for sale. Bit of a bummer. I collect boards to ride and the twinnie is a shocker. Currently riding a "Ziegler 6'7" single fin which is producing the goods for me on head high days around Ulludulla. Only had it for a month and I'm looking forward to taking it out in something a little more serious. I wonder how much that lady ended up getting for the Barry Taylor?? CheersBrendanREPLY
FOLLOW UP 11.25.02
Gary Lugg wrote:
quick note as I have just discovered your web site - which is wonderful -
what is it's purpose though - as a historical archive or are the boards on the web for sale ?
some of the references to book videos films etc is wonderful
cheersGary Lugg
Manager, Client Relations
Property Services
RMIT University
Phone: 9925 1775
Fax: 9925 3474
E-Mail: gary.lugg@rmit.edu.au
Bob Vinnicombe wrote:
I have a lot of modern surfing mags for sale, including "Tracks" & "Wavas". Any interest?
Bob
Over the last couple of months I have started collecting older boards to both ride and restore and was wandering if there may be any that you may be interested in adding to your page.
The following is a list of a few
7ft 70's McCoy single fin. Has McCoy Decal spray by Shane Egan. Shaped by McCoy
9ft 60's Gordon Woods.
5'8 McGrigor twin fin shaped by Barry King
6ft early 80's McGrigor thruster also shaped by Barry King
5'8 Geoff Darby twin fin
5'5 Sky twin fin shaped by Rodney Dahlberg
5'8 Sky twin fin shaped by Greg M
7ft Geoff Wakefield single fin
7'2? Shane Custom single fin shaped by Vaughn Riley
5'10? Arc surfboard early eighties????? Laser Zap rip off in many of its features especially in the tail and its width. I have no other info on this ugly board.
5'9? Bangalou surf company thruster, all box fins, shaped by Frank Latta
5'10 Brothers Nielsen twin fin shaped by Nev
early eighties? 5'11 Energy pro edge thruster shaped by Simon Anderson
5'11 tradewinds single fin. Not sure if shaped by McCabe
I can send photos of most but still have to scan and take of others. If interested please let me know or if you have any more info on any of these boards would be greatly appreciated.
Also thanks heaps for your site as it is a blessing when researching some of the boards I buy
Thanks
Blair
REPLY
Blair,
Thank you for your email.
1. I can send photos of most but
still have to scan and take of others.
Please check out ...
surfresearch/appendix/correspondence/contributons/catalogue
specifications
or...
surfresearch/catalogue/cataloge menu/catalogue
specifications. Same Page.
File name should be http://www.surfresearch/00000000s.html
Please report any difficulties.
2. If interested please let me know
I am snowed under with web and
work am I am trying to limit my committments.
Any processing that you can do,
see above , will be most helpful.
In order of preference....
9ft 60's Gordon Woods.
A major manufacturer, under repesented
in the catalogue.
5'8 McGrigor twin fin shaped by Barry
King
This could be either a 1971-2 design or
the later MR design of 1976.
The 1971-2 model is much rarer (many less
made). Check catalogue entries ...
1970 # 71 Walsh,
Twin fin I 5 ft 4"
1972# 106 Pat Morgan
Twin fin I 6 ft 7''
and look for similarities. One sign is
the rail overlaps used up to about 1974.
Also check, not very clear imge
of McGrigor ad 1971 at bottom of # 209.
early eighties? 5'11 Energy pro edge thruster shaped by Simon Anderson
7ft Geoff Wakefield single fin
Wakefield were originally a Sydney - western
suburbs company, often with lots of colour compared to other builders..
Could be interested in this board, I have
some Wakefield advertising of the period.
or if you have any more info on any
of these boards would be greatly appreciated.
A few quick comments...
7'2? Shane Custom single fin shaped
by Vaughn Riley
More details please and date, possibly
from 1976.
7ft 70's McCoy single fin. Has McCoy
Decal spray by Shane Egan. Shaped by McCoy
Compare and contrast 1976 McCoy
rounded pin # 25.
Is spray signed?
5'10 Brothers Nielsen twin fin shaped
by Nev
Early Nev shape before started own company
in 1980, I think there a few of these around.
5'10? Arc surfboard early eighties?????
Laser Zap rip off in many of its features especially in the tail and its
width. I have no other info on this ugly board.
No record of Arc Surfboards, any address
details on the decal?
Shows the design was more widespread than
just the McCoy models. See 1981 Gordon and Smith # 73
Also shows how designs can be reproduced
(at least a close approximation) after a quick look or from photographs
Absolutely obscure observation
: Ugly is a judgement often made by surfers about patricular boards
- one Californian manufactuer (Con Surfboards) marketed and decaled one
1960's model as "The Ugly".
5'5 Sky twin fin shaped by Rodney Dahlberg
and 5'8 Sky twin fin shaped by Greg
M
Both 1979, MR design.
Greg M is Greg Melhuish
Early Dahlberg shape, pre - sorry can't
remember current label.
Interest would most be in condition,
colour and features like rail channels.
5'11 tradewinds single fin. Not sure
if shaped by McCabe
I only have a listing for Peter McCabe
as Tradewinds shaper, from 1978
Not all boards were/are signed by their
shaper.
Unfortunately, in many cases today, the
'signatures' on boards are forgeries.
5'9? Bangalou surf company thruster,
all box fins, shaped by Frank Latta
Bangalow Surf Company ?
all box fins - probably early model,
particually if the side boxes were large enough to take Twin fins.
Frank Latta, originally a Cronulla surfer,
has probably shaped (continuously) longer and for more Australian boardmakers
than anyone else.
He probably started shaping by the mid
sixties and is currently shaping for Skipp surfboards in Wollongong.
It would probably be possible to have
a collection of boards that covered about every Australian design between
1966 and 2002, all shaped by Frank Latta.
Hope this has been of some help,
Geoff.
Lorraine & Daniel Bond
161 Tuggerah Pde
Fax 0243338485
Aloha... I hope this finds you well. My name is Tim DeLaVega and I'm putting together the "Surfing Collectibles Guide" Series of booklets for collectors and historians. Presently we are working on putting together the next issue which is called "200 Years of Surfing literature", publication set for early January. Your site was mentioned so I'd thought I'd drop a line and see if you'd like to join T.E.A.M. Surf Guide "Together Everyone Achieves More". I'm working with Daved Marsh, as his bibliography was our starting point. As I self publish these so their is no money, but I'll send you a batch of issues as well as you'll get lots of credit in the issue. It's more about doing something worth while for surfing as a TEAM... If your interested I'll send over the TEAM letter and you can decide best how you can assist. Nice site, keep up the good work, really a classic and informative site... Aloha ke Akua, Tim Tim DeLaVega Photo/Design P.O. Box 760 Hanapepe, HI 96716 PHONE: 808-335-2704 FAX: 808-335-5469 http://www.napaliphoto.com
arielbks@bigpond.net.au
11.21.02
Hi GeoffI am at present having
my Woosley spoon being restored and as part of the process the decal has
had to be reproduced.
This I have done using a computer
Auto Cad programme.The name of the shaper was not complete so I used your
reference to Rod Tevs and apon having the decal checked by an old
friend in Aus he told me the shaper was in fact a Rod Teys.
Hi... Here's something I thought you might find interesting... I make contemporary hollow wooden surfboards.... http://www.hollowsurfboards.com/ ... I'm still getting a few bugs out... I'd be interested in your comments and suggestions... Paul Jensen
Paul, Thank your for email - a link has been added to my web links page. I had a quick look but currently I am six months behind in email (now working backwards) and it is not possible to prepare a detailed reply at present. Geoff.
kauai halewia wrote: > hi > my name's ziv lahat and i'm from Israel. > I'm really interest about your company,can you send > me some informations like catalogs and stickers. > Thanks Very Much > Ziv Lahat > One Love > My adress's: Ziv Lahat 5,Hatanahim street 46447 Herzliya Israel
Ziv, My web site is not a commerical company. I do not sell surfboards or surf related items. I have no catalogues/brochures/stickers/other. Geoff.
I'm interested in obtaining readable (offsets and drawings) for the "Tom Blake 1940 hollowpaddle board for a youth community construction project.I'd appreciate any assistance you cold provide. Please respond to this rangering@msn.com . Thanks,John A. Gillikin
John, I only have scans of printed diagrams from books - the best one on the web site at . History -History Appendix - Source Documents - Tom Blake Paddle board The source (Pop Mechanics?) is noted. I am attempting to source more detailed and clearer plans but yet with little success. Please note that I am in Australia - this material should be much more widely available in the USA - I am assuming that is your location. If other avenues prove unsuccessful , get back to me as I will be starting intensive work on this period (1928 - 1945) in the next six months. Geoff.
Hello Geoff, My name is Jeff Hayes and I really enjoy your website and all the neat information contained in it,especially the photographs of all the old classic boards out there.I am a 31 year old from Newcastle and i have been riding and collecting old Surfboards since I was 14 and I started surfing when I was 10 after a family holiday to Greenmount. Geoff the reason I am writting to you is because I would like to give you pictures and details of my boards but I dont think I have the right equipment to do the job, or the expertise for that matter. Do you ever pass through the Hunter Region in your travels?If so I would be very happy for you to photograph my collection for your site. My collection consists of the following 1, 5'6" Mark Richards twinn fin Kneeboard .2, 6'4" Sam Egan early diamond tail single fin Shortboard.(no legrope plug).3, 6'8" Bill Wallace early mal,no 307 on the large balsa stringer.(I believe this mal was built for a child or a women due to its unusual short length).4, 6'9" Egan mid 70's pintail 3 stringer single fin.5, 6'11"G & S diamond tail Tracker.6, 7'7" Bennett Tracker with removable wave set fin and square legrope plug..7, 7'10" G & S stringerless pintail mal.8, 8'9" Bill Wallace old pig mal.9, 9'2" Gorden Woods old mal.10, 9'4" Keen Davis old mal with 1966/7 permit sticker.11, 9'5" Gorden Woods stringerless thin rail mal.12, 9'6" Gorden Woods 3 stringer mal with wood tail block.13' 9'8" Gorden Woods single stringer with wood nose & tail blocks. If you are interested in viewing my boards you can contact me at the following email address.tanya_jeff@kooee.com.au Also I am keen to find a stage 4 Greenough fin for one of my boards and was hoping to find someone who may perhaps make replicas for it.Any info would be cool. Best of luck with the website Geoff and I cant wait to see it updated soon.
Regards Jeff Hayes.
Jeff, I have your email but it will be several weeks before I can have a good look at it. Geoff
Hi, I have owned this board since 1988 & have tried to look after it , it is a Scott dillon Pintail, rather large fin with the old hole driiled in (pre legrope plug) a leg rope plug has been installed at some stage. Under the fin is written on the blank.."614" ...7'8"...BI. Any information on this board would be greatfully appreciated, if you would like more photos of it or anything else I could supply, I would be only too happy to. Regards, Dave Bowtell
Dave, Please indicate location. - If you are near or passing Coffs Habour NSW take the board to Scott Dillon at his Surf Museum. He will tell your more than I could. 1. Length and constuction indicate circa 1968-9. 2. Unfortunatety the image does no show the tail - I assume it is either... a. Square (a Tracker) - see Catalogue - 1968 Keyo # 69 and 1969 Wallace # 108 b. Pintail - see Catalogue - 1968 George Rice # 37 c. Rountail - see Catalogue - 1969 Scott Dillon # 171 Please confirm. Also see Catalogue - Catalogue Menu Options - Manufactures/Shapers Index - G - Scroll to and select Gordon Woods. The image at the bottom of the page details common tail designs of summer 1969. 3. The markings are not very helpful, at the moment. Besides the length (is it correct?), I can't identify the shaper's initals (BI.) with any known shaper and without this the serial number is not important. 4. The fin I assume is fixed - not in a fin box. 5. The board looks in excellent condition, pity about the leg rope plug - do not attempt removal, see # 37 above. Does the red on the rails continue on to the bottom? 6. Please check ... Appendix - Corresponence - scroll to and select Contriutions/Catalogue Specifications or..........................Appendix - Design and Decor - Catalogue Specifications for general information on dimensions, photographs and decor. Navagation note : It would take me for ever to insert lnks to these pages, and then I would probably get them wrong. Please report any navagation difficulties. I hope this has been of some assistance, Geoff.
Dear Geoff, I'm trying to find information on Carroll Surfboards of Brookvale, NSW. My father, Trevor Manning, passed away in 1993. As far as I know, this was his surfboard business around 1969. There was a full-page ad on the back of a Tracks magazine with a photo of him, his dog and his short board titled something like 'Go Smaller Surfing this Year with a Carroll Surfboard' taken at Freshwater Beach. I'm sorry that I don't have any other details. His family aren't forthcoming to say the least. 'Hoping that you may be able to help. Any details would be appreciated. Dad was 22 in '69
Shonny.Clemesha@npws.nsw.gov.au
Shonny, Sorry but I will not be of much help. My listing for Carroll surfboards comes from my only reference - an advertisement in Surfing World circa 1969. From memory, the ad featured a board and a lady. I have added Trevor's details to my listing, with a credit. If you seriously want a copy of the ad let me know and I will make an attempt to find it. I hope this has been of some assistance, Geoff.
Geoff, You have a graphic for Surfing Wild Australia next to: Channon, Bruce and McLeod, Hugh : 1986 Surfing the Chain of Fire Paul Scott
Paul, The graphic for Surfing Wild Australia that you refer to went in the last update. I can't remember where it came from (probably contributed) and I was never happy with the size or quality. I have recently acquired another copy of the book, this one with a dust jacket, which is different to the previous one. This is currently online. I assume the first cover is a overseas or later edition. Please forward any further comments, Geoff.
Hi there Surf Research,My name is Ty, son of Terry Klemm.I was just looking up history over the net about Klemm-Bell surfboards and came accross your site.I looked up Klemm Bell at http://www.surfresearch.com.au/mk.html and noticed a small error.You have my dads' name as Terry Klem. Do you think either you or one of your sites administratorscould change or fix the error to the correct way, Terry Klemm, yeah 2 m's in Klemm.If you require any more information about my Dad, I could find it out for you and email it.You are running a fantastic site, keep up the good work.RegardsTy Klemmwombat@sub.net.au
Ty, Thanks for pointing out the spelling error - the offending adminstrator has had their position terminated. As I am NSW based, I am familiar with Victorian boards only by magazine coverage - in the case of Klemm-Bell only a few ads. Any information that can be added to the page is welcome. Check out some of the pages of the major manufacturers... Catalogue - Catalogue Menu Options - Manufacturers/Shapers Index - select by alphabet and select decal image eg Barry Bennett, Gordon Woods, Keyo, Shane for examples of relevant information, such as starting -closing dates, addresses, shapers etc. Geoff. PS The line about sacking was a joke - there ain't nobody here punching the keys but me.
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