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2. Who was the shaper (Keen Davis?) and is he still around?
Several shapers, possibly Warren Cornish.
This was covered in a recent magazine interview with Warren Cornish,
now of Byron Bay and manager at Bob
McTavish Surfboards
I have not yet been able to find this article and have been delaying
a response til I had the full story.
3. And any thing else of interest about this mystery
An interesing manufacturer..
The brand is Keen-Davis Surfboards, note hyphen - it was a company
name.
They had no previous surfing experience and attempted to make a killing
on the new craze by hiring a bunch of
Bondi gremmies to build the boards.
I have another address at 16 Market Street North Sydney.
(see surfresearch - catalogue - menu options - manufacturers/shapers
index - K - scroll down)
Dates about 1962 to about1965, when they realised they were out of
their depth and closed the factory down.
I will send further details (and add them to the Manufacurers /Shapers
Index) when the magazine article turns
up,
My questions, ..
1. cedar tail block is wedged shaped, that is a triangle ?
2. Clear board with light brown/yellow offset cigar band on deck and
bottom ?
(see surfresearch - appendix - design and decor - decor - scroll down
)
3. fin shape - dimensions?
4. Photographs, if possible, are of great assistance .
Geoff.
P.S Sorry abpout all the tags in your original message below - but
that is how the text opened in Reply.
Brett Rice wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Rice [mailto:ricefamily@iprimus.com.au]
Sent:Friday, May 02, 20039:16 PM
To: 'geoff@surfresearch.com.au'
Subject:
Geoff,
Greetings from WA. I have a very well kept Keen Davis 9ft 6’
cedar stringer 15mm, cedar tail wedged board which is just a stoke
to ride. I have only sighted one other Keen Davis board ever
which was at Goodtime surf shop in Brisvagas.
It has a competition stripe running across the deck on the angle
with light brown in the centre stripe, and then a thinner yellow
stripe on each side of that.
The address and telephone number is given on the green and yellow decal as follows;
116 Mount Street, NorthSydney
Ph: 920738
I thought you may be able to tell me;
·what board riders club had these club stripes and colors
·Who was the shaper (Keen Davis?) and is he still around?
·And any thing else of interest about this mystery
Your site is excellent and is well overdue. Hope to hear from you soon.
Brett the Jet
David,
Peter Clarke Surfboards are listed in the Manufactures/Shapers index,
path...
surfresearch - catalogue - catalogue menu options - manufacturers/shapers index - P - scroll down
Peter Clarke Surfboards
53 Bay Road Taren Point NSW
1963 Shapers : Keith Paull;
1965 Shapers : Keith Paull, Warren Cornish
1975 Shapers : Geoff Solness and Greg Melluish;
1976 Shapers : and Rob McLaggan,
Discontinued production circa 1976 when the factory burnt down.
Sorry about the rigors of spelling but..
Tarren Point should be Taren Point.
Keith Paul should be Keith Paull.
Surf Permit Sticker.
Definitely dates the board as 1967 or earlier.
Waverly is most likely Waverly Council in the eastern suburbs of Sydney
which includes Bondi Beach.
I have not heard that New Zealand had surf permit stickers.
Production Date
Length, width and thickness indicate closer to 1967 than earlier.
Closer dating only determined by design feature variations 1965
- 1967.
Features that are pertinent are decals, fin design, bottom design (particularly
if deep V) and tail shape.
Check entry at surfresearch - catalogue - 1965 # 169
and then subsequent entries up to 1967 to see which most closely resembles
your board.
Hint : Click image in top left hand corner to advance to next entry.
Decals
Please note attached decals to compare with your board's decals.
Attachment 2 - Early decal - an adaption of previous factory manufacturer
- Norm Casey
Surfboards.
Attachment 1 Keith Paull Happening - Peter Clarke Surfboards,
Infitity graphic, circa 1967.
Note that a "Keith Paul model " decal does not mean that the
board was shaped by Keith Paull -
closely examine the board for any pencil markings on the blank for
any further identification.
Keith Paull
Keith Paull was one of Australia's top competitive surfers 1965 to
1973.
He was Australian champion in 1968
Originally from Queensland, he had a long term shaping stint at Peter
Clark Surfboards and his designs were
manufactured by Bing Surfboards in the U. S. A.
He was one of the three stars in MacGillivray and Freeman' s film Waves
of Change, 1969.
In the early 1970's he started Harmony Surfboards at Kirra and was
a postive influence on many Queensland
surfers, most notably Peter Townend.
Harmony Surfboards were early sponsors of Wayne 'Rabbit' Batholomew
and Guy Omerod.
His career ended abruptly in 1975.
An in depth profile of Keith Paull by Chris Brystrom was published
in Pacific Longboarder magazine Vol 2 No
1 October 1997.
Australian boards in New Zealand.
It probably is not the case in New Zealand now, but early NZ
surfing history there was a strong connection with
Australian manufacturers.
Most notably there was a long standing relationship with Gordon Woods
Surfboards (Aust) and Atlas
Surfboards - marketed as Atlas-Woods.
Also many NZ shapers worked in Australia, for example Wayne Parkes
and Rodney Dahlberg, and some
Australian shapers worked in New Zealand, for example Dave Jackman
who emmigrated in 1968..
See...
Williamson, Luke: Gone Surfing - The Golden Years of Surfing in New
Zealand, 1950 -1970
Penguin Books (NZ) Ltd, cnr Airborne and Rosedale Roads, Albany, Auckland
1310, New Zealand. 2000
Head Surfboards
Sorry, never heard of this label.
Many manufacturers (in all countries) had a short life span and are
virtually impossible to trace.
Further comments on these boards would require more information - for
example dimensions and images if
possible. See...
surfresearch - catalogue - catalogue menu options - catalogue specifications
I hope this has been of some assistance,
Geoff.
"Williams, David J (NZ)" wrote:
Hello Geoff, I have a Peter Clarke single fin 8'7" I would like
to know more
about. I cannot find anything on it. I had thought it was an
Australian
board as it has Tarren Point under his name. Is also detailed
as a "Keith
Paul" model.
I used to surf it al lot as was my only old long board for use
on small days
but since getting an old dunlop board I realise how hard it
was to catch
waves. It is very wide for the length and incredibly thin. I
have had a few
old boards over the years but this is the only one I have seen
with a surf
permit sticker on the bottom. It is from waverly and dated 1967
so I know
the board is at least that old.
Waverly is a small town in sth Taranaki (New Plymouth).
I have had it as long as I can remember so no idea where I got it.
Not many Australia boards turn up in New Zealand so would appreciate
any
information you may have.
I also have a 6"11 1/2 single fin which could also be a NZ board
but have
never heard or it so could also be Australian. Only log is "Head
Surfboards"
Regards
David Williams
Wellington
I have had the pleasure of talking intensively with Mr. Dillon about
surfboard design history.
Some of this information is online on my web page at...
http://www.surfresearch.com.au/mscott_dillon.html
There are also several Scott Dillon surfboards in the catalogue entries...
1959 Pig #99
1967 Spoon nose #144
1968 Pintail #111
1969 Roundtail #171
1975 Stinger #43
I am attempting to attach a html file and the relevant images.
Please use any of this material you may require.
A link, if you feel it has relevance, would be nice.
Geoff Cater
Scott Dillon has provided much of this
information at one meeting in 1998 and over several
subsequent phone calls - many thanks, Geoff Cater..
Ken,
Of course....
#1 Fillmore Concerts (1971)Allman Brothers
- I have never heard this.
#2 Waiting for Columbus (1978) Little Feat
- muddy outside sound, far inferior to Electrif Lycanthorpe (spelling?)
Bootleg
#3 Rock of Ages (1972) The Band
- Ok but more polished and varied performances (and performers) on
The Last Waltz
#4 Four Way Street (1971) CSN&Y
- poor, over-indulgent
#5 Before the Flood (1974) Bob Dylan & the Band
- a minor Bob-Live recording, all performers have indicated these versions
are "stressed" in an attempt to
recreated the power of the 1966 tour.
See (hear?) the superior and original Live in Manchester/Royal Albert
Hall recordings.
#6 Live Rust (1979) Neil Young
- weird choice and weird recording.
The original Rust Never Sleeps was a live recording in the first place
(maybe wrong on second thought) - the
only tracks of note are earlier songs
not on the original Rust album.
#7 Get Yer Ya Yas Out (1969) The Rolling Stones
- considered far inferior to the Bootleg release of this tour -Live'r
than you've ever been...
#8 Mad Dogs...(1970) Joe Cocker
- fair
#9 Full House (1972) J. Geils Band
- only heard a couple of times, 30 years ago.
#10 At The Fillmore (1970) Derek & the Dominoes
- far inferior to original Derek & the Dominoes : Layla studio
recordings.
Best live Clapton probably the MTV Unplugged set.
Note the critic's selection heavily emphasises US performers and double albums.
My Selections...
1. Bob Dylan : Live in Manchester/"Royal Albert Hall" 1966 recordings.
Official release 1998
An early bootleg pressing, circa 1970, noted on the cover...
"This recording has been produced as a necessary part of the evolution
of Rock music."
This was a gross undestatement ... "necessary" should read "essential".
and in no other order...
Bob Dylan : Live 1975
- Rolling Thunder Tour , released 2001 - far superior to
the Hard Rain album released at the time.
Bob Marley and the Wailers : Live at The Lyceum
- tighter and superior to Babylon by Bus
Joe Jackson : Live 1980 - 1986
- four sides of four different tours, radically different versions
from the studio cuts, absolutely live - no studio
overdubs.
Lou Reed : Rock and Roll Animal
- if only just for the instrumental introduction.
David Bowie : David Live
- have not heard this for a long time, would need to confirm with further
listening.
Talking Heads : Stop Making Sense.
The Band : The Last Waltz
- mostly impeccable perfomances and a cast of hundreds.
Various : Woodstock
- many impeccable perfomances and a cast of thousands.
The Rolling Stones : difficult to select a live album, possibly the
last Stripped, 1995 is as good as any.
Have just inserted in to CD player - sounds Ok.
Various : The Concert for Bangla Desh
- if just for historical significance - the first multi-performer charity
rock song (single Bangla Desh), concert,
record and film that set the blueprint for all subsequent causes, eg
Live Aid.
Absolute highlght : Five song Dylan/Harrrison/Leon Russell/Starkey
acoustic set.
That's eleven.
Non Music
Lizzie HSC results = 97
Currently year one double degree Creative Arts (Acting) + Journalism
@ Uni of Wollongong
Lesley left Shoalhaven Heads Dec 2002, now at Bomaderry.
Liz now at Bomaderry with Lesley (but often not at home and has boyfriend).
James has 12th birthday this weekend - seven guests arrive at lunch tomorow for 24 hr sleepover.
Mattress business is struggling as usual.
Several disaster orders (half my fault) and Lesley's departure makes
finances tight.
surfresearch web page is out of control - currently 3 months behind
in email enquiries and unable to focus on
what needs to be done.
Few boards added to collection but a couple of quality pieces
- Shane stringerless 8ft 1967
- Bluebird by Bob McTavish 7ft 1972
- Farrelly 6ft 5 circa 1972
No surf for two weeks - clean up ear surgery on 17 july,
and expect to out of the water for another two weeks at least (under
doctor's orders).
Aqua highlights...
Saturday, about two months ago, on solid swell surfed Mollymook Golfcourse
up to 6 ft 9 '' with max 8 surfers.
Actually well over 60 surfers in the water but spread over seven breaks,
working simultaneously.
Had a week in Coffs Harbour (see attachment) pre ear operation and averaged
a surf a day, so actually haven't
surfed in cold weather/water this year.
Geoff
Ken Grieves wrote:
Geoff,
Long time no speak!! Seeking an informed opinion abt the attached.
Do you have an opinion?
Ken
brian,
Many thanks for your email.
I was sure the photograph was mis-titled (indicated by the ?) - it
does not look like Blake, who was also a goofy
footer.
The photograph, and incorrect credit, is reprinted in...
Margan, Frank and Finney, Ben R. : A Pictorial History of Surfing
Paul Hamlyn Pty Ltd, 176 South Creek Road, Dee Why West, NSW
2099. page 128
An alternate copy of Jim and Rusty would be most appreciated.
I have added your comments to the National Geograghic 1944 entry to
clear up this mis-print.
However I have just completed a major upload and it may be several
months before available online.
Geoff.
Brian Martinet wrote:
Hi - one of your references is below: National Geograghic Magazine
September1944 Volume 86 Number 3
Surf Board Riders Capture California
Black and white photographs by J.H. Ball
pages 355 - 362
Eight full page black and white photographs, several previously
printed in Popular Mechanics, February
1942. See above.
Photographs include Tom Blake and dog (?), hollow and solid
wood boards. The photo is actually of my
uncle Jim Bailey and his dog Rusty. It was a misprint
in National Geographic. Jim Bailey was a legendary
longboarder and friend of Doc Ball et. al. He was a life
guard at Hermosa Beach California. I have another
photo of him with his dog on the front of his board if you would
like a copy. My aunt, his wife, is still alive in
Hemet California, but alas, Doc passed away last year. Thanks,Brian
Martinet
brian,
Many thanks for your email.
I was sure the photograph was mis-titled (indicated by the ?) - it
does not look like Blake, who was also a goofy
footer.
The photograph, and incorrect credit, is reprinted in...
Margan, Frank and Finney, Ben R. : A Pictorial History of Surfing
Paul Hamlyn Pty Ltd, 176 South Creek Road, Dee Why West, NSW
2099. page 128
An alternate copy of Jim and Rusty would be most appreciated.
I have added your comments to the National Geograghic 1944 entry to
clear up this mis-print.
However I have just completed a major upload and it may be several
months before available online.
Geoff.
Brian Martinet wrote:
Hi - one of your references is below: National Geograghic Magazine
September1944 Volume 86 Number 3
Surf Board Riders Capture California
Black and white photographs by J.H. Ball
pages 355 - 362
Eight full page black and white photographs, several previously
printed in Popular Mechanics, February
1942. See above.
Photographs include Tom Blake and dog (?), hollow and solid
wood boards. The photo is actually of my
uncle Jim Bailey and his dog Rusty. It was a misprint
in National Geographic. Jim Bailey was a legendary
longboarder and friend of Doc Ball et. al. He was a life
guard at Hermosa Beach California. I have another
photo of him with his dog on the front of his board if you would
like a copy. My aunt, his wife, is still alive in
Hemet California, but alas, Doc passed away last year. Thanks,Brian
Martinet
Tim,
Probably a West Coast USA board any time from about 1964 to 1968.
Try...
Surfboard Restoration and Repair Manual
-USA page by Andy Anderson, includes link to his surfboard reseach
guide, 'Stoked 'n Board'.
Get back to me if this is of no help.
Note
1. My field is Australian surfcraft - my knowledge of USA boards is
limited.
2. The more details (construction, fin, decals etc) the better to date
the board.
Photographs are a distinct advantage. See...
http://www.surfresearch.com.au/00000000s.html
Geoff
timronda wrote:
I have a 9’6” Joey Cabell board.&nX-Mozilla-Status: 0009ho shaped them and when? It has a serial # of 673.
Tim Coyle
Stewart,
Thank you for your positve comments.
I think there are several photographs of Nat Young on the site - please
identify page.
Any photograph of Nat Young on the site is definetly not mine and its
source,
usually from a book, should be noted.
I hve no problems, but I would assume you would need the permission
of the
original publisher.
Geoff
stewart clegg wrote:
> Dear Geoff
>
> I am an academic at UTS writing a book on Managing People and
> Organizations, as a textbook, and one chapter on organization culture
has a
> discussion of surfies and lifesavers. I'd love to use the photo of
Nat
> Young off your site to illustrate this if I could, with permission.
>
> Fine Dylan site as well.
>
> Stewart Clegg
Dan,
Thank you for your positive comments.
Many books have sections devoted to surf instruction, one of the better
and easily accessed is
Young, Nat : Surfing Fundamentals
Palm Beach Press, 40 Ocean Road, Palm Beach NSW 2108
First published 1985, but several later editions and probably still
available.
I like..
Conway, John : Adventure Sports : Surfing
Salamander Books Ltd., 129 – 137 York Way, London
N7 9LG, United Kingdom. 1988
A well-produced instructional manual from English author/photographer
with excellent illustrations (Simon
Evans).
Now old, available second hand online at abebooks.com - make
sure you look for Australian bookshops - US
postage can be more than the item.
Later publications include..
McLaren, James : Learn to Surf
Lyons and Burford, 31 West 21 Street. New York, NY 10010. 1997
Werner, Doug : Surfer's Start-Up : A Beginner's Guide to Surfing
- Second Edition
Start Up Sports/Tracks Publishing
140 Brightwood Avenue, Chula Vista, California, CA 91910. 1999
Moriarty, Jay and Gallagher, Chris : The Ultimate Guide to Surfing
Yhe Lyons Press, 123 West Street New york, New York 10011 2001
A basic surfing how-to book with no outstanding features - the
inclusion of "Ultimate" in
the title a definite exaggeration.
Strongly suggest you check your local council library, and even your
daughter's school library, for sufing books.
Your local library catalogue may be available online.
Geoff.
Dan BroggiX-MX-Mozilla-Status: 0009=CITE>Hi;
Nice site. I was happy to see a picture of Mark Richards with an Aipa
Stinger. I had one just like it in the late '70s.
Question; I'm getting my daughter into surfing and she gets most of
her info
on my past experience (which may not be the best). I've never come
across a
book that describes 'how-to surf' like there is for other sports. Given
your
resources, have you ever seen one?
Thanks for your time,
Dan
Stewart,
Thank you for your positve comments.
I think there are several photographs of Nat Young on the site - please
identify page.
Any photograph of Nat Young on the site is definetly not mine and its
source,
usually from a book, should be noted.
I hve no problems, but I would assume you would need the permission
of
the
original publisher.
Geoff
stewart clegg wrote:
> Dear Geoff
>
> I am an academic at UTS writing a book on Managing People and
> Organizations, as a textbook, and one chapter on organization culture
has a
> discussion of surfies and lifesavers. I'd love to use the photo of
Nat
> Young off your site to illustrate this if I could, with permission.
>
> Fine Dylan site as well.
>
> Stewart Clegg
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sophie,
Contact Phone : 02 4448 7490
My Location : South Coast NSW
Brief Questions..
How much of a hurry are you in?
How many boards?
Shooting location?
Thanks, Geoff.
sophie wasley wrote:
> Dear Geoff,
>
> I understand you do not sell any period surfboards, but we
are working
> on a commercial for the commonwealth bank and we are interested in
> hiring 1970's surfboards.
>
> Do you know of any people who collect vintage surfboards of this
era.
>
> I am contactable on my mobile number below, or I could contact you,
if
> you could provide me with a number.
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Sophie Wasley
> Imageis. The Visual Research Group
> Sophie Wasley
> p:- +612 91303129
> m:- +61 413 153 729
Good morning, Leo.
Please check ...
surfresearch - catalogue - catalogue specifications
These details assist in board description.
Please note : photographs are are great help.
Please confirm...
Length : 10 ft
Width : 21 inches
Stringer : 1 inch timber
Tail : "a long tail around 2.5 ft" - I am not sure what you mean by
this.
Fin : Single, 12 inch base
Fin height?
Fin construction ...
timber and fibreglass, or
fibreglass only, or
other
Fin Design : see surfresearch - catalogue - fin catalogue (images).
Scroll down and see which design is closest to your board.
(Yes I know, many are missing - but there should be some from this
period.)
Decal reads ...
Custom Built Surfboards - 578 Sydney Road Brunswick 386571
Board colour, any other features?
Sorry, I have no details on this manufacturer.
They have been added to the Manufacturer's Index for next upload.
Suggestions...
Brunswick is a suburb of Melbourne, also a town/suburb in WA.
Length and stringer indicate about 1963.
Geoff.
Leo Doyle wrote:
Good afternoon I have recently bought an old mal at a furniture
auction. It is a 10ft long board - approx 1ft 9 wide - a long tail
around 2.5 ft - 1 inch wide stringer - the single fin is 1ft
at the base and one of the really old fins. The decal says - Custom Built
Surfboards - 578 Sydney Road Brunswick 386571 Have you any ideas
of how old it is and any history? Rough condition but just
loved it. Cheers Leo Doyle
Michael,
I can't be of much help here.
Depite the brand name, Aussie Surfboards were made in the US,
probably on the West coast, but also
marketed on the East and Gulf coasts.
Started about 1968 after the Australian short board was developed and
was an attempt to cash in on the
Australian connection.
Probably ceased by mid seventies.
The dimensions, construction and fin box dates this board approximately
1969 -71.
The higher the rails then more likely late sixties, the lower the rails
then more likely early seventies.
The fin looks not original or maybe reshaped.
Fin box looks like Waveset system.
This was replaced by the more common and still in use, Bahne box about
1971.
It was rare for boards to bee identified by shapers' markings in this
era.
Try...
Surfboard Restoration and Repair Manual
-page by Andy Anderson, includes link to his surfboard research guide,
'Stoked 'n Board'.
This may be of more assistance.
The photographs were a great help, Geoff.
Michael Boyd wrote:
Geoff,
I have a 6'6 Aussie in pretty good condition. I'd like to know
when these
boards were made and who was the shaper. The serial # is 318,
but no other
signatures.
I've attached a couple of pictures. Thanks.
Mike Boyd
Corpus Christi, Texas
Denis,
My field is Australian boards, but I will make a few guesses...
1. probably Californian board (assuming you found it in CA)
2. "double reinforced fiberglass rails." - probably Volan rail overlaps,
used up to about 1973.
3. Length, pintail and fin box indicate circa 1968 to 1972
The higher the rails then more likely late sixties, the lower the rails
then more likely early seventies.
4. Fin box indicates either backyard builder or experimental model
- up to 1970 the only changeable fins were moulded plastic (commonly
Waveset) and many alternatives were
tried.
The common Bahne box, still in use for longboards, was introduced about
1971-2; so this board probably
pre-dates this.
5. "The rails have a lip down the center" - not 100% sure what this
means.
Photographs, if available, are a great assistance.
Especially helpful for difficult to describe features such as 4. and
5. above.
Try...
Surfboard Restoration and Repair Manual
-page by Andy Anderson, includes link to his surfboard research guide,
'Stoked 'n Board'.
This may be of more assistance.
Sorry I can not be of more help,
Geoff.
Dennis Kahn wrote:
I found what I think is a late 60's early 70's board. It has
a home-made
"fin box" which is really a three sided structure made out of
resin with
holes drilled into it so that the fin would sit snuggly in the
"slot".
It is about 7' 6" double reinforced fiberglass rails. the logo
on the hull
of the board is a seahorse with half circles drawn around it
stopping at an
empty border with the words "board by Morrow". It has in smaller
writting
that it is registered to a R. "sombody" the words are faded
and hard to
read.
It is a pintail. The rails have a lip down the center - which
suggests to me
a novice board maker, but the truth is it may have been a style
at the time
they made this. It is about 2 1/2" to 3" thick.
Does the name Morrow mean anything. Should I keep it in a safe
place or surf
it?
What do you think?
Thank you;
Dennis Kahn
I just emailed the inquiry about the Morrow board. I'm located
in southern
CA.
Dick/Barry
Thank you for your email.
I will add a link to www.surfingheritage.com
to my Web Links Page and in some specific catalogue entries at the
next upload,
assuming this is OK with you.
Please note
www.surfresearch.com.au is an archive/catalogue/data base of Australian
surfcraft, on-line since 1999.
Current entries (The Catalogue) date from 1914, and total 120 surfcraft.
Approximately 12 entries are under preparation for next upload.
Entries are sourced from museums, surf life saving clubs, shops, auctions,
competitions and private collectors.
Each entry attempts to extensively detail :
Manufacture
Construction
Dimensions
Design Features
Fin/s
Decor
Board History
Design History
References
Supporting images regularly include Deck, Bottom, Fin, Decals, and
Board/Rider Portaits.
Supporting pages (approximately 200 ) include History, References and
Appendix (Glossary and
Oddments).
re : Surfing Heritage Foundation web page.
1920's and Earlier
1924 Duke Kahanamoku, 11' 6''
"...purchased from him at the Outrigger Canoe Club in 1970. " - my
emphasis.
Duke Paoa Kahanamoku passed away January 22nd, 1968.
1930's
1933 Tom Blake Paddleboard, 13' 11''
I think this image is upside down.
1940's
Solid Balsa, 11' 10''
"after the war, old abandoned life rafts made of balsa wood were stripped
and the short pieces glued together
and shaped into boards"
For fibreglassed and finned example, see ...
www.surfresearch.com.au/00000101.html
Note that following correspondence from Paul Gross and John Ewell this
page is being revised
1948 Balsa-Redwood, 11' 6''
"This one-of-a-kind surfboard is distinctive because of the two 'big
wave' handles carved into the tail block,
intended to make it easier to push through the big surf at Tijuana
Slues."
Unfortunately I am unable to determine clearly the two 'big wave'
handles carved into the tail block from the
online image.
Please report if these compare or contrast to those on Lou Morath's
solid wood Wave Board, circa 1939.
See Design Comments....
www.surfresearch.com.au/00000105.html
I am currently doing some work on Australian surfboards (solid wood
and hollows) used at the Pacific Games,
Hawaii in 1939. Any US or Hawaiian resources you could suggest would
be appreciated.
Geoff Cater
Dick Metz wrote:
The Surfing Heritage Foundation
We at the Surfing Heritage Foundation (www.surfingheritage.com)
are dedicated to collecting, restoring,
and archiving historically significant surfboards, photographs,
film, writings, artwork, and other interesting
cultural objects, collaborating with other institutions and
organizations in creating venues for their
appreciation. We are set up as a non-profit, thus donated items
can provide tax rewards to their donors. We
have started the process of establishing a Historical Surfboard
Registry (initially focusing on pre-mid-‘60s
boards) which tracks location and ownership, authenticates,
records dimensions, weight, background history,
and photo-archives each board, rating its condition and rarity
relative to other examples of the same type of
board on a numerical scale. The boards are then categorized
on an evolutionary timeline in context to all
other known boards. Each registered board will receive a certificate
and is then listed on the Registry
website. The Foundation is the home to one of the most significant
collections of wooden surfboards and was
recently able to acquire the Surfer Magazine/Bob Cooper collection
of pre-‘60s surfboards. Our goal is to
preserve surfing’s roots for future generations and we hope
that you will join us in that quest. We are
constantly looking for opportunities to collaborate with other
like-minded individuals, institutions, and business
ventures that share our love of surfing and desire to pass that
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Greg,
Thanks for for positive comments and the information.
There is no reason why this was missed.
Entry now reads...
Surf (Australia)
1976 -1979
Editor : Steve Core
Bi-monthly
First Edition Vol 1 No. 1 November 1976
Strong Cronulla influence,
Steve Core made surfboards in the late 60's, photographer, surf
film maker (In Natural Flow, circa 1973), film
distributor and published a magazine.
This magazine was overlooked until October 2003,
This omission was pointed out by Greg Clark, via email..
Thanks Greg.
Image right ; Vol 1 No. 8 February 1978 $1.45
Cover : Rabbit Batholomew/Stradbroke Island by MartinTullemans
This will be online at the next major upload - Dec/Jan.
Thanks for the pointer,
Geoff
Greg Clark wrote:
Hey Guys, Came across another Australian surfing magazine you
might like to add to your list. Surf was published by Steve
Core in Cronulla I think. I have a copy of the third edition
but I don't know how long it lasted after that. It was published around
1977 or 78 as my edition has a feature on Hawaii 77. Steve Core
seemed to try everything in surfing in that he made surfboards in
the late 60's, made surf movies and published a magazine. Great
site
RegardsGreg Clark
Robert,
Thanks for the positive comments.
.
Sorry, I have no contact email for Donna Gardner...
The email is totally out of control, currently 8 months behind.
Cannot find even original Weiss emails, let alone email address.
This was several crashes ago.
She certainly was not in Sydney, either Victoria or WA.
.
I have many questions Id like to ask Donna re where the Weiss
was made and
who shaped it…
.
The information posted at surfresearch-catalogue -shapers/manufactures-W
was supplied by Donna in her request to me to answer her/your
questions.
.
She recently came across the board, 7 ft 6 '' (!) and it has no history.
.
Weiss as you may know was a friggin Fishing shop in Broadway and I
always had
to do a lot of explaining to the guys when I carried it onto the beach!!!!!
.
No, I did not know/remember that "was a friggin Fishing shop in Broadway
" but had
guessed...
It is unlikely that boards were manufactured at that address (central
Sydney)
Possibly made under licence by a major manufacturer.
.
The dates are mine based on Donna's description of the manufacturing
and design
features
.
The boards length, 7 ft 6'' was very unusual, probably a juvenile model
.
Weiss entry now reads...
Weiss Surfboards
8 - 12 Broadway Sydney
Phone : 211 - 2837
1962 - 1964
Example noted by Donna Gardner :
7 ft 7'' , Custom Decal, Markings :Johnson
399
This board's length, 7 ft 6'', is very unusual - probably a juvenile
model.
Weiss (Pty. Ltd?) was a fishing supply store in central Sydney,
As reported by Bob Niblock..
"Weiss as you may know was a friggin Fishing shop in Broadway and I
always had
to do a lot of explaining to the guys when I carried it onto the beach!!!!!".The
boards made under contact (note use of Custom in the Decal) by a major
(probably
Sydney) manufacturer.
Similar models were also marketed as
Nock and Kirby's Surfboards Bombora model
(a hardware chain store and manufactured by Gordon Woods Surfboards),
Walton's Surfboards Maru model (a department store) , and
Mick Simmon's Surfboards (a sporting goods store).
This was a boom period for Sydney manufacturers, these boards orders
as big as
300 units.
Ding repairers, including Nat Young, became shapers over night.
Usually single stringer, D fin (sometimes Reverse D), limited rocker,
simple
rounded rails.
Invariably with colour decor - required for shop display.
Decal and board details contributed by Donna Gardner, with thanks.
Fishing shop details and date confirmation contributed by Bob Niblock,
with
thanks.
This will be uploaded early 2004.
.
I have a photo of me and the guys circa 1964 , bout 4.30 am about to
leave for the
beach with the Weiss centre stage…a little on the dark side but still
quite legible if
you want to list it on your site as memorabilia……the Weiss was a genuine
1960’s
Sydney surfboard mystery…LOL
.
Yes please.
Geoff.
Extra : Last minute check has found Donna's email, reproduced below.
Obviously I saw the images, but doubt I have copies.
The email address may or may not work.
Weiss Surfboard18 Mar 2003
Donna Gardner <sevenofnine@dodo.com.au> wrote:
Hello there, I can across your site and think its fantastic,
it must of taken forever ! Good work.
Just wondering if you can tell me a little about a surfboard that I
have, don't know if you can help me or not,
what I am wanting to know is how old it is approximately.
I was thinking maybe around the 1960's????
It measures approx. 7.5"
On the line down the middle it has: 399 Johnson under the wax?
(hehe probably can tell I don't know alot about surfboards!)
I have a few pictures of the board on the following urls: (thought
this might be easier than trying to explain)
http://members.dodo.net.au/~sevenofnine/abc.JPGhttp://members.dodo.net.au/~sevenofnine/a.JPGhttp://members.dodo.net.au/~sevenofnine/ab.JPG
hopefully you could look when you have a few minutes,
if not thanks for your time anyhow. Have a GREAT day !!!!
Thanks
Donna.
Donna,
Thank you for your positive comments.
The board is definitely early to mid 1960's.
The length is very unusual for this period - probably for a juvenile
ridder and possibly accounted for by the
Custom decal.
Most boards of the era were + 9 feet (108 inches).
The board appears in excellent condition.
The markings Johnson denote the shaper and 399 the board number in that series.
It is unlikely that the board was manufactured at that address (central
Sydney), it was possibly made under
licence by a major manufacturer.
Please confirm phone number as 211 - 2837.
Please check...
surfresearch - appendix - design and decor - catalogue specifications
for my formatting specifications - these detail how to measure and
photograph surfboards.
I would be interested to have full details of the board.
Also any information on it's history - even from when and where it
came into your possesssion.
I have added an entry with decal and credit to the Manufacturer/Shaper
index, online at the next major
upload
(June?).
Hope this has been of some assistance,
Geoff.
robert wrote:
Geoff, great site ..very nostalgic…
I immediately recognized several board types from the 60’s especially
a 1968 Shane model which I loved ..bought form a guy
called Jimmy Small from MaroubraBeach……I still regret selling
it after all these ‘”decades”.
I was also the proud owner of a WEISS which at the time I felt
I was the only boy in Sydney that rode one ……..built like a
preverbial brick outhouse and heavy ..but a great board.
Your site is the only one Ive ever tracked this much missed board’sdetails …can you put me in touch with
Contributed by Donna Gardner, with thanks.
As I have many questions Id like to ask Donna re where the Weiss
was made and who shaped it…Weiss as you may know was
a friggin Fishing shop in Broadway and I always had to do a
lot of explaining to the guys when I carried it onto the beach!!!!!
FYI I have a photo of me and the guys circa 1964 , bout 4.30
am about to leave for the beach with the Weiss centre stage…a little
on the dark side but still quite legible if you want to list
it on your site as memorabilia……the Weiss was a genuine 1960’s
Sydney surfboard mystery…LOL
Bob Niblock
Gold Coast
Australia
PSI also owned a beautiful, beautiful 9ft 3 Barry Bennet 4 inch
baby blue and white stripes all over with red fin…bought from
Ken Whittaker , Maroubra
.would be worth a fortune today as a collectors piece ….sold all my boards for round 10-20 bucks each!!!!!!!!!!!...if only we’d known!
Ted,
Apologies for my delay, but December has been very busy and work committments
took precedent..
Thank you for this information - I have updated the page and noted
your contrbution.
Board descrpription now reads...
Ted Spencer's 'Little Red',
Shaped by Ted Spencer and Bob McTavish at Keyo Surfboards, mid 1967
8ft 4" x 23" stringered rounded pintail, red Greenough fin.
.Clear deck, red gel coat on bottom.*
This will go online in the next upload, early 2004.
.
My previous information was culled from details were taken from
multiple viewings of Paul Witzig : 'Hot
Generation' and Bob McTavish's account of the Honolua Bay sessions,
"A plastic drinking straw...."
printed in SURF INTERNATIONAL early 1968.
This article is included in History/Source Documents with the attached
photograph.
The first hand details you have provided are invaluable to my work.
Unfortunately finding the answer to a question invariably leads to more
questions, so I will attempt to limit
myself...
1. Coincdentally in December, I got a copy of Eric Blum's "Fantastic
Plastic Machine" 1969 which has
footage of you (riding Little Red) winning the Windansea Contest at
Palm Beach, October 1967.
This gives me an estimated construction date as sometime Aug to Oct
1967?
2. Built at a time when Farrelly and McTavish were heavily promoting
the wide tail Vee bottom design, did the
board have similar rails and vee in the tail or other rail/bottom
features?
3. Given the dominance of the wide tail, Little Red's more sensible
pintail template seems remarkably
futuristic.
Similar designs were to dominant Australian design throughout 1968
- for example the Evolution Boards.
Did you have any precedent or inspiration for the pin tail template?
4. I have never seen an example of your White Kite model at Shane
Surfboards.
One report details the board design as...
"The boomer that season was the 'White Kite' designed by Ted Spencer.
(See #46 as an example).
It featured a pointed nose, flat bottom and wide vee pod. It was also
a wide board between the rails.
And it seemed to work - for most everyone.
And it was only six feet long, a foot to 18" shorter than the previous
season's boards - or two feet plus under
the length of boards two seasons back."
Uncredited : Surfboard Designs in Modern World magazine July 1971 pages
30 - 37. Editor: Dick Levine
Was The White Kite a specific design, similar to that described above,
or rather your shaper's label used over
a progressive range of designs 1969 -1973 ?
Again, many thanks for your contribution,
Geoff Cater
Edward Spencer wrote:
For what it's worth, so called Little Red board was 8'4"
in length single stringer 23" wide and was shaped by Bob McTavish and I
at Keyo Surfboards in Brookvale Australia. It didn't break badly
in Hawaii and I took it back to OZ. Regards,Ted
Cheyne,
Apologies for the delay but end of year work demands have had precedent
over pleasure.
Thanks for the compliment...
Have inserted links to Starfin page at relevant entries in surfresearch.com.au
Also link to Cheyne homepage (under Surfers) and Star fin (under fins)
on References- Web links.
These to be online at next major upload, early 2004.
Please note Fin Index was early work and many images have yet to be
updated to current format..
Geoff Cater
Cheyne Horan wrote:
Yes I did a search and found tyour great site..I was wondering
can we have a link as i have info on star-fin and other infoaloha
Cheynewww.cheynehoran.com.au
Nick,
Here are some answers.
It actually took 30 minutes.
Geoff
Nick Murray wrote:
Hi,
I'm a student at the University of Wales, Aberystwyth in Britain
and a
passionate bodyboarder. I'm doing some research on Paipo's and
the history
of prone surf craft and would really appreciate it if you could
spare 5-10
minutes of your time to complete a quick questionnaire. I apologise
for
sending it over the Christmas break but I've had to due to deadlines.
1. What are the differences between a paipo, a bellyboard and a kneeboard?
Paipo –early Hawaiian, circa 1924, short board to be ridden prone; solid
or ply timber, no fins; after 1945
mostly ridden with flippers.
Precursor to foam and fibreglass bellyboards and Tom Morey’s Boogie
Board.
Belly Board / Paipo / El Paipo : thin, very short boards with
minimal nose lift, originally of wood and used
prone by (particularly juvenile) Hawaiian surfers pre 1920’s.
Possibly from ‘pae’, to ride a wave to shore, and ‘pu’, the sea at
middle tide (Hawaiian).
Later developments saw the use of laminated wood blanks, the addition
of twin fins and handgrips and after 1945 riders had access to flippers.
The introduction of fibreglass and foam
in the 1950’s saw thicker models with increased floatation and the
development of the Surf-o-plane rubber mat.
In the 1970’s Coolite boards and fabric mats served as substitutes. The design returned to popularity after Tom
Morey’s (USA) 1974 interpretation – the Boogieboard
Knee Board/ Kneelo- short board designed to be ridden in kneeling position.
Also see Spoon #2.
Spoon
2. George Greenough (USA) designed kneeboard; originally a dished deck
fibreglassed balsa twin fin, 1962,
later a single fin; second model a flex fibreglass bottom with shaped
foam rails and Greenough fin, Velo 1965.
3. Full foam bodied kneeboard with scooped/concave deck in Greenough
fashion, see above.
For example The Shoe by Shane Surfboards.
Boogie (Board) Flexible foam bellyboard invented by Tom Morey
in 1971 as an offshoot of his
experimentation leading to the Morey-Doyle flexible surfboard. Based
on the Hawaiian paipo and incorporating
flex and ‘vacuum track rails’ (Greenough / Brock hull design). Soft
construction circumvents bodysurfing area
restrictions. Originally offered as a buyer assembled mail order product.
Extensively imitated.
2. How much have bellyboards, paipos and kneeboards influenced
surfboard
design over the years in particular the modern bodyboard?
Confusing two part question...
2. a. How much have bellyboards, paipos and kneeboards influenced
surfboard
design over the years?
bellyboards, paipos and kneeboards - heaps of influence on surfboard
design
2. How much have bellyboards, paipos and kneeboards influenced
the modern bodyboard
design over the years?
Minor
Tom Morey's Boogie Board was based on a traditional Hawaiian Paipo
template (yes, the nose has been
squared, but follow the rail line and you will see what I mean) with
George Greenough influenced chine rails.
The flex characteristcs, also a Greenough influence, are/were over-rated.
The only major design variation, since the original design in 1971,
has been variation in the flex characteristics,
generally making the boards stiffer.
3. Was modern drop knee conceived from kneeboards?
Possibly
4. How does a bodyboard compare to paipos, kneeboards and
bellyboards in
the surf?
Maximum safety.
5. Do you think fins/skegs are a neccessary part of surf craft?
No
6. What do you make of new innovations such as paipos with
hydrofoils and
the bodygun used in bodysurfing?
paipos with hydrofoils - joke
bodygun - interesting, but minor
Chris,
If you are going to a registered school (recommended) don't wory about
a board .
They will supply a soft learner's model.
Have at least a couple of lessons before committing to buying a board.
Also check local libraries for surfing books - many have advice for
beginners.
Good luck,
Geoff.
Chris Clarke wrote:
hi, Could you please help
me, I am 15 and want to learn to surf, I am going to learn at a school
and
was wondering what type of board should I buy to learn on and
also use after learning to gain
experience!cheers Cecily
Rick,
Apology : Due to work, technical and personal difficulties'
surfresearch's email sevice has been inoperative for 2003.
Replies for the backlog (+150) based on merit.
1.Wallace Surfboard
Sorry to disappoint, but current blue gel coat, possibly not original
or has been reworked.
Please note
- looks original around decal.
- possible change in length or shape, noted by you.
- damaged and repaired nose, noted by you.
- the fin is definitely not original, it is a sailboard fin circa 1984
(consider replacing).
Note how the blue covers the fin base, Is this a colour patch that
is a close match?
- when fins come out they often leave a large hole
- extreme weight, even for an old board can mean extensive repairs
usually covered by colour.
Unfortuanately no template photographs.
If you can supply a flat photograph of the decal , I could use
it online (with a credit).
Or send current image direct - cannot access email version
This is an early example, definitely pre-1963
2. George Rice
Easy, compare and contrast Catalogue entry #168....
If link doesn't work...
surfresearch -
catalogue -
text option : the catalogue -
scroll down to 1967 George Rice, Vee bottom 9ft
#00000168
Geoff.
Rick Barrett wrote:
Geoff,
thank you for replying to my e mail (from Tbar@sympac.com.au)
about my wallace board. understandable for you not to quote
prices when
they can be vastly different.
To answer some of your questions about the board
1. yes the board decal is under the laminate (not a metal foil
sticker)
2. further study of the board looks like the board was broken
or shortened,
so the original size of the board may not have been 8ft 3in.(i
can tell
this becauase you can see where the original thick weave fiberglass
stops
on the bottom only, it continues through to the nose on the
top)But if the
board was any longer it would have been very narow at the nose
compeard to
other boards i have seen from that era.(i think it was damaged
and
repaired)
3. the blue resin coat is original, on the top and the bottom.
when i got
the board some one had poured dark blue resin over the
whole board. very
rough. i chose to remove it to its original coat. see attachment
"decal.jpg"
4.Broken down the centre by a clear strip/ wooden stringer can
also be seen
in "decal.jpg"
a. No ware on the board has the foam shrunk or swelled above
or below the
stringer.
b. yes you can see foam between the stringer and colour. see
"decal.jpg"
c. I can not tell what the wood is but its definetly not a balsa
board.
d. The fiberglass matt is of a thick/heavy weave
e. I can not see any pencil markings on the stringer, but if
its there the
glass is too discoloured to see it.
5. My "Odd shaped fin" is only odd to me you may have seen it
before, have
a look at "fin.jpg"
And no its not just hte fin that weighs a ton its the
whole board, but
then again what can you expect from a board that old.
I have something else for you to look at too. a friend of mine
has a George
Rice. its about 8ft 10in and 2ft at its widest point. I've also
attached
some pics of it. he is wanting to find out an estimated age
and what
everelse you might know.
Once again thanks alot. your info was a big help. it also helped
my decide
on keeping it. Might start a colection of my own!
Regards,
Rick .
(trevor is the name on the
home address)
heres mine
RBarrett@edisonmission.com
(See attached file: fin.JPG)(See attached file: Decal.jpg)(See
attached
file: Rice4.jpg)(See attached file: Rice2.jpg)(See attached
file:
Rice3.jpg)(See attached file: Rice1.jpg)
Trevor,
1. I do not trade in surf memoriabilia and loath to quote prices.
2. Note that the boards sell usually at to prices for top condition.
3. Demand by collectors is not consistant - at auction similar
boards can
go for vastly different prices. collectors are looking for certain
boards
to compliment others in there collection.
Now the good news. The board you have sounds very interesting,
please
consider...
1. I assume construction at bronte is designated by the decal
(laminated
under the fiberglass) or sticker ( usually of metal foil stuck
on the
outside of the board). Please indecate if this is not the case.
a. If the sticker version - these are considered rare as most
often they
are no longer on the board. Ensure that is not further damaged.
b. i have an estimated date of the move from Bronte to Brookvale
as
someware around 1957, which would make the board very early.
Caution : i. the board may be later, the decal/sticker old stock
used after
the move.
ii. I would have doubted foam boards were made by Bill Wallace
at bronte
- see #3 below.
2. The length at 8 ft 3 inches also posible indication of early
manufacture.
3. "Blue" - Blue resin coat on the outside of the board (top
and bottom?)
is common for the period, often used to cover imperfections
in the blank.
Examine area around the fin to confirm the colour and/or the
fin is
original - hard to explain but have a look anyway.
4. " Broken down centre by clear strip/wooden stringer/fibre
matting''
a. at any section is the foam sunk below the stringer or the
stringer sunk
below the foam? early blanks were prone for swelling, unlike
modern blanks
which shrink.
b. Can you see foam between the stringer and the colour?
c. Can you inentify the wood? there is a very small possiblity
that the
board is solid balsa wood, but if it has open dings then this
is easily
answered.
d. Does fiberglass appear similar to the modern weave or a thick/heavy
looking weave?
e. Any pencil markings on the stringer?
5. the "odd shaped fin" is of partticular interest, more4 data
required. I
assume its not just the fin that "weighs a ton".
6. please look at catalogue specifications
<http://www.surfresearch.com.au/00000000s>
if the link doesnt work go to appendix - Design and Decor -
Catalogue
specifications.
this is a general overview of board features and includes details
on taking
photographs and formatting. Photographs are most useful, as
long as I can
acess them.
please follow up with any more questions or data.
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Jeff,
Apology : Due to work, technical and personal difficulties'
surfresearch's email sevice has been inoperative for 2003.
Replies for the backlog (+150) based on merit.
Compare and contrast Catalogue 1967 # 115
Pintail design, see WM #107, Scott Dillon #111.
Also check Wallace Surfboards in Manufacturers Index
ser.# a 484. - unfortunately these "Shaper's markings" usually have little significance on Australian boards.
Photographs (and length) would be helpful.
Geoff
Maryfairy01@aol.com wrote:
my name is jeff meek. i have a wallace v-bottem ser.#a484. i
had it sanded and re glossed and ride it in local vintage surf
contests. i ride for the weber surf team, but pefer it to some
of the vintage weber boards. if you are interested in a picture,e-mail
and i'll respond. if you have aany info on the board i'd apreciate
it. it is a "pig" shape with exagerated 24'' hips with a rounded pin
tail. the deck is almost concave near the nose. the wallace
logo is on top and bottem. the board is clear w/stringerless blank.
jeff
dana point,ca
Rick,
Apology : Due to work, technical and personal difficulties'
surfresearch's email sevice has been inoperative for 2003.
Replies for the backlog (+150) based on merit.
Sorry no email address
Try Shane Surfboards
cnr Mitchell and Sydenham Roads,
Brookvale NSW 2100
Australia.
Maybe try a search for Spyder Surfboards - I think they use this name for modern boards.
Geoff.
icylava wrote:
Dear Geoff: could you please help me find email address
of manufacturer of Shane Universal wave ski? thank you aloha
from
hawaii. guy jay email icylava@hawaii.rr.c
Darren,
Apology : Due to work, technical and personal difficulties'
surfresearch's email sevice has been inoperative for 2003.
Currently clearing backlog (+150), Replies based on merit, ease
or whim.
I assume this is no longer current, unlikely I would have suitable contacts.
Sorry, Geoff.
Darrin Polischuk wrote:
Hey,Briefly..I produce a show about the "making of action sports
films...it is a documentary
behind the scenes type of show called "exposure". It used to
be called 16mm but it was picked
up by Fox in USA and re-branded..anyhow last season I had a
videographer run around OZ and
do quite a few segments on the action sports scene down under...go
to
www.beyondtheaction.com to see what we did..this is the Canadian
version of the show...anyhow
I am really interested in another trip and want to do some history
of type segments and meet
some of the older guys...Falzon would be a natural...could you
put me in contact? also who has
the rights to many of these old films??? because what we do
is wrap interviews around clips to
tell the story and we have zero footage acquisition budgets...let
me know and any help is
appreciatedpeaceDarrin Polischuk
Ripitup Productions
cell 604 603 5009
Max,
Apology : Due to work, technical and personal difficulties'
surfresearch's email sevice has been inoperative for 2003.
Currently clearing backlog (+150), Replies based on merit, ease
or whim.
I thought I sent some details in the mail to Byron Bay.
Please indicate if more info required.
Also think these boards are available from Bill Wallace, north
near Pottsville.
Geoff
max pendergast wrote:
hi geoff
I am trying to find some information on the 14ft. and 16 ft.ply boards
as used by
surf life saving clubs in the 50's and 60's.
I'm 60 years old and have been surfing since i
was ten and still enjoy it, however byron is becoming more and
more crowded, so i would like to
build a replica of one of the old boards so that i still can
enjoy the waves but just a little further
out than the rest of the crowd.i started surfing on one of these
when i was about nine (i know i'm
crazy but i would like to try one again)
I have a copy of an old surf life saving handbook
which has some dimensions, but i know someone in Sydney used
to build them for the clubs but
i don't know who. I am hoping to obtain some plans and ideally
a table of offsets showing rocker
and deck and bottom roll, and as i noticed your excellent site
i thought perhaps you might be
able to help or know someone who might.
Yours Sincerly
Max Pendergast Byron
Bay
email >vonmax@mullum.com.au
Simon,
Apology : Due to work, technical and personal difficulties'
surfresearch's email sevice has been inoperative for 2003.
Currently clearing backlog (+150), Replies based on merit, ease
or whim.
MR Twin Fin
1. Confrm bottom is refinished (badly).
2. MR Superman logo apparently not used on Australian boards till late
1980's,
although used on early US boards (by Gordon and Smith).
3. This is an early decal, first used on single fin designs by Col
Smith's Morning
Star Surfboards, circa 1976.
4. Original ? - very few of these boards actually shaped by MR.
Look for pencil shaper's markings.
5. Compare contrast othder MR catalogue entries
#40
#165
6. From #40....
The design was also shaped by Mark Platter, Ken Freeland and
Tony Cerff at
Maddog Surfboards.
Mark Richards Surfboards (single fin designs) were first manufactured
by Morning
Star Surfboards, Mona
Vale.
The fin to flyer channels rarely appear on later/copied examples.
The ribbon decals were early designs, gradually replaced by a
MR/Lightning Bolt, a
MR script and a
MR/Lizard graphic.
Apparently the famous MR/Superman logo only appeared on Mark
Richards'
personal boards during this
early period.
Hope this has been of some assistance,
Geoff
Simon McGuire wrote:
Hi Geoff,
I picked up a 'Mark Richards' twinfin at a garage sale. The
top looks untouched but bottom of it seems to be refinished
(badly).
Are you able to tell me if it is an original or not? It does
not sport
one of the superman MR style logos that I am familiar with.
There are 3 pictures attached.
Much appreciated
Simon McGuire
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This has been noted, with corrections, at several applicable enties, with a credit....
Reported, with thanks, by Saxon June 2003...
Hydroplane Stingers were made extensively by Len Dibben (Surfboards)
in Perth
in the seventies.
I have seen the photo albums to prove it.
Online at next upload, Feb 2004
Thank you,
Geoff
Raven-Star wrote:
Hydroplane stingers were made extensivly by Len Dibben in perth
in the seventies.I have seen the
photo albums to prove it.
Saxon
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shapers.
Suggest visit at least 3 large surf stores and finely check advice
and
prices.
Good luck, Geoff.
dreamworld5@juno.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Inland family of 7 has moved to San Diego and would like to surf.
Local
> 9ft eggs are around $500-600 usa dollars, so we were thinking of
> alternative. Do you like any chinese shapers enough to recommend?
>
> Thanks for your time,
>
> Frank
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and
prices.
Good luck, Geoff.
dreamworld5@juno.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Inland family of 7 has moved to San Diego and would like to surf.
Local
> 9ft eggs are around $500-600 usa dollars, so we were thinking of
> alternative. Do you like any chinese shapers enough to recommend?
>
> Thanks for your time,
>
> Frank
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Thanks for the info - have added your email to Film/Video page.
Online at next upload, Feb 2004.
As you gather, I am snowed under with work at present - and 1988 is
getting
way ahead of me.
Current areas of work are...
Australian boards pre-Kahanamoku,
Pacific Games 1939 Honolulu,
Development of Vee botom 1967, and
Development of Side Slipper 1969
.. yet emails ask or offer everything but.
Geoff.
glisseur@ans.com.au wrote:
> Hi geoff,
>
My name is Guy Finlay and I was looking through your site
> recently and noticed that there was a gap in your lists of surf
> films/videos.
>
> It was in 1988 that I linked up with Tim Bonython ( a nightmare in
> itself!) and filmed, produced and directed Water Slaughter and
> Strikeforce. At the time they were the state of the art of surf film
and
> we were, as Australians, sticking it up the americans again. I made
the
> comment on the cover of the video slick that " Austaralians are the
best
> surfers in the world" and they were at that time where the Top 16
were
> all Aussies.
>
> When I went to the states with the tapes in June, 1988 the
distributors
> nearly didn,t take it up because of that statement!
>
> Recently Albie Thoms wrote his book and contacted Tim for info on
these
> two films but unfortunately for him and anyone that deals with Tim
he
> got the "Tim is the god of all surfilm makers" stream and did
not get
> the truth of how these two film/videos were made.
>
> I have contacted Albie and given him the facts with regard to the
> production and I hope that if there is ever a reprint of his book
that
> they can add more information.
>
> If you are still into it I can help with more info about surf films
and
> videos from the inside.
>
> regards,
> Guy Finlay
7. In your opinion has modern bodyboarding overtaken surfing
as the most
exciting and challenging discipline?
No.
Prime candidate is Tow-in surfing
8. Is this down to paipo riding?
Not applicable
9. Do you think that people in general and bodyboarders
in particular are
aware of their history?
No
10. Is there anything you would like to add about the history
and future of
prone surf craft?
Everything I currently have to say on this matter is online at...
http://www.surfresearch.com.au/00000000p.html
I quote the Introduction...
Often denegated, usually ignored, prone surfboards play an integral
part in surfboard design and
riding performance.
Note..
1. The art of Hawaiian surfriding as evidenced by Captain Cook in 1770
must have developed in the
Pacific islands over centuries. Obviously the initial ventures would
have been on small boards in
small surf, close to shore. Only with a vast increase in skill and
experience over a long time and the
availability of suitable materials (for example wili wili, an Hawaiian
equivalent of balsa wood) would
stand up surfing be possible.
2. Most surfers begin their surfing on prone boards - for example Mark
Richards on a Surf-o-plane
and
Tom Carroll on a Coolite.
3. Many surfboard design features have either been initially developed
or taken to their extremes by
non-standup surfers, for example George Greenough.
4. In many cases, performance levels have been set by prone/kneel boards.
This was partically the
case up to 1974, before the introduction of the legrope. Prone or knee
boarders, by virtue of their
proximity, have more control of the board during wipe outs and this
enabled them to ride deeper in the
wave with confidence and to dominate at breaks were wipeouts were board
destroying, for example
Little Avalon, Sydney.
5. Subequent to the general adoption of the legrope, prone craft still
establish some performance
levels. Photographic evidence appears to confirm that Boogie riders
ride deer and longer in the tube.
6. In other performance areas, such as "getting air", the manourves
were established by Boogie riders
ten years before being adapted by standup surfers.
11. Would you in theory be interested in appearing in a documentary
on
Paipos?
No
Many thanks for your time,
Yours sincerely,
Nick Murray
paisano82@hotmail.com
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Thanks, have added link to Mgf entry with decal and credit.
Sorry, cannot open 2. Clean Cord image.
Can you send this as a jpg.
Geoff
Geoff
Dan wrote:
1. There is a web site for cord surfboards in the uk where
the owner is now based www.cordsurfboards.com.ukthere is a good
history on cord there
2. Clean Cord logo
Name: cord logo.lnk
Type: Shortcut (application/x-unknown-content-type-lnkfile)
Encoding: base64
Subject:
Re: CORD surfboards
Date:
Tue, 30 Dec 2003 22:34:03 +1100
From:
geoff <realbeds@shoalhaven.net.au>
To:
Dan <dlnodonnell@optusnet.com.au>
References:
1 , 2 , 3
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Sorry, cannot open 2. Clean Cord image.
Can you send this as a jpg.
Geoff
Geoff
Dan wrote:
1. There is a web site for cord surfboards in the uk where
the owner is now based www.cordsurfboards.com.ukthere is a good
history on cord there
2. Clean Cord logo
Name: cord logo.lnk
Type: Shortcut (application/x-unknown-content-type-lnkfile)
Encoding: base64
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Sorry, this is outside my scope.
Have little interest in modern manufacturers (except for my personal
boards)
Have some pages at ... surfresearch - references - web links
but hardly current.
The Page carries note...
PLEASE NOTE: All this listing, checking and linking is a pain. Sites
are constantly added to the net at an
increasing rate, sites are changing their address, addresses are changing
into other sites and sites are
disappearing completely. Many sites who's primary function is to list
other sites are full of holes ('not found at
this address' or a variation of). I will now (March 15, 2000) only add
sites to this page if they have particular
relevance to Pods for Primates or are in some way outstanding/highly
unusual.
Hopefully you have solved your problem through alternative sources by
now,
Geoff
Dante wrote:
GreetingsI was wondering where i could get useful info
by a surf web-site or directory (excluding surfinfo.com) i am needing the
cyber (email) addresses of all surfshops australia wide. i know
its a big ask but you guys seem clued up on this type of
stuff. Thanks for your time.Regards
Dante Francisci
+44 (0) 1494 881107
Beech House, High St
Lane End
High Wycombe
HP14 3JF
UK
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1. " D FIN guesstimate about 1964 " - could be 1960 to 1964
2. Please confirm source ..." australian made "
3. Sorry, no records of MACDOLALD surfboards.
Closest for the period is ..
McDonagh Surfboards
Brookvale NSW
An early major sydney manufacturer.
1957: Greg McDonagh.
196? Bob McTavish
This is all I have, but definitely need more on this manufacturer.
Photos and design features help.
4. Just found email #2
Confirm Mc Donagh (note spelling)
Have copy of decal " name is written inside a map of australia
with no other emblems or stickers."
I think this is a latter version, that is more 1964.
This and other decals and a fin amd manufacturing photos circa 1964,
from
Pollard, Jack (ed.): The Australian Surfrider
K.G.Murray Publishing Co.P/L,142 Clarence Street ,
Sydney Australia 1964
online at next upload Feb 2004....
catalogue - manufactrers/shapers index - m
Geoff.
Deane Brown wrote:
1.
Geoff,my name is deane brown Ive organised and held a surf regatta
in west
oz called OLD MEN ON OLD MALS were pre 1967 surfboards and riders
compete
[head stands ect ] old fun and games.
anyway Ive just brought a MACDOLALD surfboard,It is a
old D FIN guesstimate
about 1964'' I know very little about them except they are australian
made
any ideas on their history or a site I can find out any more
.
thanks Deane
2.
lets try again,see if I can get it right this time,Ive just purchase
a
macdonagh surboard [9ft,6in] number 1029,in western australia and its
not to
bad a condition,do you know where I could find out how old it really
is My
guess early 60's,the name is written inside a map of australia with
no other
emblems or stickers.
Hoping you can help or send me in the right direction
thanks deane
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Gordon Woods Surfboard
1. Fottr approximate Date - check
surfresearch - catalogue - image options - surfboards
Scroll down to a model most similar to your board.
2. Gordon Woods Surfboards history at...
surfresearch - catalogue - mgf-shapers index - G - Gordon Woods Surfboards
3.Unfortunately Number 4660 unlikely to be of applicable significance.
Geoff
Sarah Slattery wrote:
Just trying to find out some information and history of my old
malibu. I have a Gordon Woods malibu 9' 9",
double stringer, there is a number on one of the stringers-
4660. I'm interested when it was made and it's
history etc. Can you help? Regards, Sarah Slattery
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"I would appreciate your providing me with the information reference
for your listing of my film Wizards of the
Water."
Sorry, I have no idea where I got this from - possibly an ad or article
in Tracks.
This is very old work, pre-2000, which I discontinued with
the publication of
Albie Thoms: Surfmovies - a History of Surf Films since 1897.
Albie Thoms records Wizards as Australian 1981,
Playgrounds in Paradise as US 1976, and
The New Playgrounds in Paradise as Australian 1978 - page 190.
Both movies corrected (Wizards of the Water 1981.) and added (The New
Playgrounds in Paradise
1978),
with a credit to you.
have retained Playgrounds in Paradise as 1977 for Australian
release.
Online at next major upload, Feb 2004.
Thank you for your contribution,
Geoff.
Alan Rich wrote:
Dear Geoff..., I would appreciate your providing me with the
information reference for your listing of my film Wizards of
the Water. It was released on 14 December 1981 at the Sydney
Opera House Music Room. You also have not listed "The
New Playgrounds in Paradise" which was released in 1978. I have
long since wearied of David Sumpter's inabilitity to tell
time, in his case out by a year, but the release date remains
as always, late 1981. Could you please make the small but
appropriate correction? Thanks. Look forward to hearing from
you soon.
Yours faithfully,
Alan.
Alan Rich, Ballina Councillor for B Ward Phone: (02) 66
877 092
Fax: (02) 66 877 092
Mobile: 0414 555 245
Ballina Shire Councillor
Web Page http://www.ballinacouncil.com.au/yourcouncil/councillors/alan%20rich.htm
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#115 Wallace is an example of a Vee bottom / Stubby / Plastic
Machine
- a very popular design in 1967 and credited with the start of short
board surfing.
Compare/contrast fin, template , dimensions with Woolsey.
They were made by every Australian manufacturer, but were replaced by narrower tailed designs by mid 1968.
Entries for Mgf/shaper index are often questimates...
- most early boards don't note shaper at all ( a plus for your board)
- some from magazines , usually fairly reliable.
- some from surfer/shaper recollections, often hazy particularly with
dates.
- some are attempts to match shaper with estimated board date, usually
= or - 6 months.
Rod Teys entry indicates 1968...
- may be earlier, confirmed if your board circa 1967
- may have been longer.
Dimensions and/or photographs are of great asistance,
Geoff
Brenton Roy wrote:
Hi Geoff. I have a board that is identical to 00000115.html – although it may have more rocker.
It is inscribed Woosley surfboards, shaped by Teys.
It gets used regularly around the South coast of SA, and apart
from a few repaired minor dings and a little yellowing is in good
nick, and is fun to ride – although pretty solid to land on!
I’m not a surfing expert, and would just like to know more about this
board and this style.
I have found a reference on your site and interesting info.
Can you tell me anything more about Woosley boards and Rod Teys. Your info just lists Teys as working for 1 year.
Is the board technically interesting, or was this just another version of the popular shape?
Best regards,
Brenton Roy
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Double apologies - this is ovbiously no longer relevant.
Hope you had a good time.
For the record (without checking) - acquaintances regularly travell
to Bali by Quantas with longboards with no difficulty.
Geoff.
Rick Kwasek wrote:
Hi Geoff,I just have a question relating to flying to the
Sunshine Coast from Melbourne with Qantas and taking one 9foot long board
and my son and daughter have 7foot 6 mini mals. I
understand there is a length restriction on the surfboards Regards
Rick Rick Kwasek
Design/Investigations Engineer
Kingston City Council
6th Floor, 1230 Nepean Hwy Cheltenham
Ph: 8585 3376
Fax: 8585 3398
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1. single stringer board with a D fin - dates 1960 to 1965.
2. Grand Prix...burwood...hawthorn (Vic) - assume decal under glass
No record of this label..
However, note...
Hawthorne not coastal suburb, therefore possibly ..
i. large production house attempting large out put to cash in on surfing
craze 1963-1964, for example
Ron Surfboards and Keen-Davis Surfboards Sydney
ii. board made by a professional builder, with an alternative decal,
for example
Nock and Kirby's Bombora model - manufactured by Gordon Woods Surfboards.
3. fibreglass maker who did car bodies..ie fiat lombardi sports..they
were called Grand Prix..
This connection possible senario for 2.i. above.
You would need to confirm similar factory location to make this more
than a guess.
Victorian boards are not my strong point, suggest try older Victorian boardmakers, for example
Penisular Surf Centre - Ted and Dan Bainbridge's surfshop since 1974.
Mornington Penisular, Victoria
Trigger Bros
Southcoast Longboards-Torquay, Victoria. Shaped by Ian Chisholm.
Dimensions and photographs would be of assistance.
Geoff
MurrayA wrote:
Hi Geoff
Hope you can help....I have just found an old mal....It was
covered in many
layers of paint and when I removed the layers I discovered a
single stringer
board with a D fin....I think the board is foam as opposed to
balsa and at
the base had the words....custom boards by Grand Prix...burwood...hawthorn
(Vic)
I cannot find any ref to these guys though I know of a fibreglass
maker who
did car bodies..ie fiat lombardi sports..they were called Grand
Prix..
Thanks for your help
Cheers
Andrew
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6' 2" Shaun Tomson single fin Surfboard. circa 1979.
"Its a piece of history".
Three Possibilities....
1. No knowledge :
surfers simply being derogative to a stranger
2. A little knowledge :
Single fin boards are basically obsolete since 1982, especially under
9 feet.
A tri fin board's performance is definitely superior.
3. Some knowledge :
Shaun Thomson is a piece of surfing history,
although as a South African he is out of my specialist area (Australia)....
Suggest search for "Shaun Thomson" for biography.
- one of the top 4 competive surfers 1976 to 1982,
- noted for his tube riding ability, to rival Gerry Lopez.
- star of Freeride, 1977. the definitive surfing movie of this period.
- his rounded pin single fin design was copied and made under licence
around the world.
Geoff
Don & Anne wrote:
Dear sir I am not a surfer. However. I do have an old 6'
2" Shaun Tomson single fin Surfboard. When my 16
year old son does take it out, he gets a lot of comments from
other surfers. Comments such as - "Its a piece
of history". I am wondering what is the basis for these comments.
Can you help or if not, point me in the right
direction? regards Don Lovett
Kevin,
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Scott Dillon Surfboard 7' 8" pintail Vbottom
- circa 1968
See Scott Dillon Surfboards Pintail Vee bottom 1968
Also see Scott Dillon Surfboards
I.D.# 107
Unfortunately these numbers are usually of no applicable significance.
batman shape on the deck
This is a knee patch to strengthen the deck
- a common feature of the period, but these boards were/are rarely
knee paddled.
See Deck image Shane Surfboards Vee bottom 1967
a trade or partial payment towards a newer,lighter longboard.
Sorry outside my area - suggest you look at
http://www.swaylocks.com/
A hint : Full dimensions, inculding decal, colour, fin details and images
are great help in assessing and seeling
boards.
Geoff.
Holedigger7@aol.com wrote:
hello, my name is kevin. I own a 7'8" Scott dillon board. From
looking at this site, I think it's a pintail Vbottom,possibly from the
60's or 70's.The I.D.# on it is 107. I live in Florida and use
the board once in a while. It has a layer of glass in kind of a batman
shape on the deck. If possible, I would like to know what year
the board was made and if any people would be interested in a
trade or partial payment towards a newer,lighter longboard.
I just turned 54 an plan to get back into it `this winter-need the
workout. Thanks for your trouble.
Edward,
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All current information and images are at...
Shane Surfboards Vee bottom 1967
Please note these boards are not for sale.
Geoff
edward wilcox wrote:
Hey my name is Edward and i would like
some info on the shane stringerless board. Please send some pictures
as well
thanks.
Barry,
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You probably have sourced some alternative by now, sorry.
This is way out of my area.
A few belated suggestions (may have to use search if links don't work) ....
http://www.surfNhula.com/
http://www.swaylocks.com/
Surfbooks.com
3 - Tales from the Tube (Rick Griffin, Bob Cording, Jerry Humphries)
(1-5x8, 2-11x17)
Griffin definetly sought by collectors.
Geoff
barry s colman wrote:
This is not a request for a valuation. The "A Winter's Tale"
handbill is really interesting because it seems like an early
Australian connection. I am interested in who/where is best
to get these appraised so I can know at what value to insure
them: Surf Movie Handbills (original with thumbtack holes in
corners; my wife removed these from surf shops and telephone
poles and stored them away when she was a "surfer chick" in
the '70s around South Bay (PV, Redondo Beach, Hermosa
Beach. Manhattan Beach)
3 - Tales from the Tube (Rick Griffin, Bob Cording, Jerry Humphries)
(1-5x8, 2-11x17)
- Fluid Drive (Scott Dittrich) (11x17)
- Salt Water Wine (Alan Rich) (11x17)
- Super Session (Hal Jepsen) (11x17)
- Summer Breeze (11x17)
2 - Seadreams (7x10, 10x14)
2 - Inspiration (Lary Bennett) (9x9)
2 - Going Surf'n (Bud Browne) (11x17)
- A Wnter's Tale (Austrian Surf Film; Midget Farrelly) (11x17)
- Forgotten Island of Santosha (Larry Yates) (11x17)
- Waves: Acquiscent Energy (Terry Lamb) (11x17)
- A Sea for Yourself: Karma Animation (Hal Jepsen) (11x17)
- Sons of Champlin, Sammy Hagar Concert at the Monterrey County
Fairgrounds (11x17)
Thanks
Barry Colman
Handmade1@juno.com
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You wrote...
I have a 5-10 shortboard...Its numbered--I was wondering if you could
let me know if you can give us
a
value?this is what one shop told us....Sorry for the repeat prints--
didn't know for sure how to cut and
paste it.
Rodger
First generation Australian shortboard 68" x 23" No 1240
Appraised Longboard House, Florida US $400
Note :
1. I do not sell, trade or value boards.
2. "First generation Australian shortboard"
Vague - could be 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971.
3. Anyway discourse hampered by not enough information
- no decal, fin, colour details. No images.
4. Dimensions are highly unusual (23'' wide but only 5 ft 10'' !) - more like a kneeboard.
5. "Sorry for the repeat prints-- didn't know for sure how to cut and
paste it."
- this email was a mess, I could not do anything with it.
Geoff
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Thank you you your positve comments.
1. "You have a photo of Butch Cooney by Jack Eden taken in Newcastle
which you have captioned
'Merewether?'It is definitely Newcastle Beach for the following 2 reasons.
The angle of the
photograph indicates that the photographer was obviously not on the
beach and was more or less in
line with Butch Cooney. Newcastle Beach affords this angle of the break
from the rocks. You could
not get this angle at Merewether. Secondly at the time that the photo
was taken the contests in
Newcastle were either held only at Nobbys or Newcastle Beach."
Yes, you are correct.
Had worked this out, see below, but yet to insert changes.
Unfortunately I cannot remmember or find where the image is/was located.
May have even been lost in a recent upgrade.
Total pain - will redo photo, and load into History 1967.
This is a fantastic photograph of fantastic surfing.
Note :
i. McGinness, Laurie. Photographs by Crawford, Peter : How to
Ride a Surfboard, 1976
has a front-on shot of Butch Cooney at Newcastle Contest, Newcastle
Beach 1967 (page 61).
Jack Eden has a wonderful side-on shot of possibly the same wave.
ii. A third (colour) photograph of the same wave, by John Witzig,
is the cover shot for the first issue of Surf
International, Vol 1 # 1, December 1967 - January 1968 and coverage
of the contest.
Accessed above magazine, for 5 minutes, Sept 2003 to confirm dates and
location.
Futher information to to added from notes later.
2. "Incidentally what ever happened to Butch Cooney?"
Last report I have is shaping for Nivana Surfboards 1978
3. "On your list of surf movies you appear to have omitted a couple
of Australian surf movies from the
late sixties or perhaps 1970, one of which was called Solid Glass Tube
and was produced by Ray
Young ( I think). It was a shocker (out of focus etc) but I think
he produced a few movies around that
time. I also vaguely recall reading a surfing article in recent times
about Ray Young and how he used a
few different names to produce surf movies around that time. You might
like to investigate this
further."
The film page is very old work, pre-2000, which I discontinued
with the publication of the definitve...
Albie Thoms: Surfmovies - a History of Surf Films since 1897.
I will add Solid Glass Tube and your comments, with a credit.
Online at next major upload, Feb 2004.
Thoms records ...
1970 Solid Glass Tube Directed by 'Ray Cassidy' (actually Denis McDonald)
page 112
An interesting story, too involved for me to attempt here.
4. "I read some of your reviews of books etc and would have to say that
having just read 'Occy' that
you were too charitible. It would have to be the worst example of surf
journalism ever!"
Also will add to these comments to the relevant book entry, with a
credit.
Online at next major upload, Feb 2004.
5. "I have a reasonable collection of Surf magazines and books ( all
of which you have covered)
ranging from a '63 edition of Surfing World through the full colour
editions, plus Surf Internationals &
early editions of Tracks, although I am not a collector- just
a hoarder."
Noted.
7. "Hey Guys,"
There is just me,
Geoff
Greg Clark wrote:
Hey Guys, Excellent site and so comprehensive. I have some information
that may assist you and also you may want to add or
investigate. You have a photo of Butch Cooney by Jack Eden taken
in Newcastle which you have captioned 'Merewether?' It is
definitely Newcastle Beach for the following 2 reasons. The
angle of the photograph indicates that the photographer was obviously
not on the beach and was more or less in line with Butch Cooney.
Newcastle Beach affords this angle of the break from the
rocks. You could not get this angle at Merewether. Secondly
at the time that the photo was taken the contests in Newcastle were
either held only at Nobbys or Newcastle Beach. Incidentally
what ever happened to Butch Cooney? On your list of surf movies you
appear to have omitted a couple of Australian surf movies from
the late sixties or perhaps 1970, one of which was called Solid
Glass Tube and was produced by Ray Young ( I think). It was
a shocker (out of focus etc) but I think he produced a few movies
around that time. I also vaguely recall reading a surfing article
in recent times about Ray Young and how he used a few different
names to produce surf movies around that time. You might like
to investigate this further. I read some of your reviews of books etc
and would have to say that having just read 'Occy' that you
were too charitible. It would have to be the worst example of surf
journalism ever! Mr Sunset would have to rate up there as one
of the best. I have a reasonable collection of Surf magazines and
books ( all of which you have covered) ranging from a '63 edition
of Surfing World through the full colour editions, plus Surf
Internationals & early editions of Tracks, although
I am not a collector- just a hoarder It is a shame that two of the best
Australian
surf magazines ar no longer produced ( Australian Surfers Journal
& Deep) Keep up the great work. Regards Greg Clark
Cassandra,
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Sorry, no information about this label
My area of study essentially Australian surfboards.
Try...
http://www.swaylocks.com/
Images and accurate dimensions help.
Geoff
Cassie Maull wrote:
Hi1 Can you tell me anything about Hill surfboards? The
board came from California and was built in the 1960's if not before.
It's
8 or 9 feet long and has surfing stripes down the middle and
has "Hill" printed on it. If you have time and inclination to "place" it,
I
could email a picture to you. Thanks for your time. Cassandra
Maull
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Geoff
Tim Christmas wrote:
Hi Geoff
I don’t know if you can help me or not, but hopefully you can
I am looking for photos/pictures of Australian long board surfers
in the 1950’s and the 1960’s. I am also
looking for shortboard riders in the 1970’s. It would also be
great to get photos of woman from this era either
in surfing gear or lying on the beach. I am needing to hopefully
get hold of some material today. If you can help
could you please get back to me asap.
Thank you
Tim
tim christmas
goodoil films
production assistant
t: +61 2 83532444
f: +61 2 83532420
m: +61 422 185 151
e: tim@goodoilfilms.com
www.goodoilfilms.com
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Heads Boardriders Club is currently not operational.
If necessary contact Geoff at 4448 7490.
Geoff
Brent Nassibian wrote:
> hello
>
> i was wondering if you could help me with some information about
the Heads boardriders club.
>
> who is the club president and there contact details (email and Phone)
> what is the clubs address?
>
> thank you
>
> Brent Nassibian
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Thank you for your postive comments.
Sorry, I can provide no information about this board.
Would agree with 1966, largely based on fin.
My area of study essentially Australian surfboards, this is definitely
US made.
Try...
Surfboard Restoration and Repair Manual
-page by Andy Anderson, includes link to his surfboard reseach guide,
'Stoked 'n Board'.
May be able to help with tracking number.
www.surftrader.com -Since 1966. Check the Collectors Database for articles relating to collectables.
http://www.swaylocks.com/
A comment (based on images - thanks, huge assist), paraphrasing Ric at G&S....
Congratulations, you have a very sweet and well-preserved board from the LAST era of longboards.
Geoff
Jason Johnson wrote:
I'm looking for information on this board. Following is
the reply I got from G&S upon sending them the attached pictures;
"Okay,
the fin and the way it was installed places the board at around
1966. The board is in unbelievable condition, which is why I
believed that the tracking number was from a more recent series.
Your surfboard is a little wider in the nose than most of our
boards were back them, which leads us to think it was probably
custom built for someone who knew what he wanted.
Congradulations, you have a very sweet and well-preserved board
from the first era of longboards. How did you come to have
it? Aloha,Rick at G&S" I live in SC, the board came to me
by way of a friend from DC a couple of months ago. The story that
I got
was that it had been garaged since the owner came back from
Vietnam minus one leg. Great website -- I've stayed up way too
late reading it.
Michael,
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Sorry, I have no information on Wah Wah Willie.
Geoff
Michael Lowe wrote:
Hi from Toronto in Canada. Just wondering if you had anyextra
information on the Australian surf guitarist
Wah Wah Willie, who is all over the radio here. I heard him
interviewed on CKLN. Incredible stuff!My sister on
the US west coast, Santa Cruz, tells me they play his stuff
on TV there all the time too. Anything you might
know would be really great. In the interview he talked a lot
about surfing and music...really coolstuff. There's a
lot of fans here for this guy.Best,Michael Lowe and friends.
Mark,
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Online at next major upload, approximately February 2004.
Thanks,
Geoff
Mark Riley wrote:
Dear Geoff, Could you please update my link at RILEYto include
RILEY CLASSIC BALSA BOARDS - and the web link is
www.riley.com.au - we only make balsa boards - modern foam core
and solid traditionals. Thanks MARK RILEY Kleenlines Pty
Ltd trading as
Riley Classic Balsa and Arts Of South America
For all balsa wood needs and South American homewares
Office - 5/37 Ewos Pd., Cronulla 2230
Factory - Next door to 49 Captain Cook Drive(Brunker) look for
surfboard on side of factory.
Caringbah 2229 NSW Australia
Office - 61 2 9523 1534
Fax - 61 2 9544 3969
Mobile - 0412376464
Email - mark@riley.com.au
Checkout - www.riley.com.au
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Geoff
HYPERACCENTS@aol.com wrote:
Hi
Could I link to Your website? If You like I'll put
a link to Your site on My links page.
Thanks Cindy www.hyperaccents.com
Tim,
Aloha
The season finds me very well - five straight days surfing and/or wave
sailing.
Thank you for your positive comments.
Briefly...
hope I can get your permission to list you as a contributor
- certainly
as well as send some books to you
- absolutely
The Australian Surf Life Saving Handbooks 1932-1955
- this looks okay, but am re-re-reviewing them this morning and may
have something to add in next two hours.
Was their any surfing in the first edition? - have any idea when the
first edition was?
- as above.
Back soon,
Geoff.
Tim DeLaVega wrote:
Aloha
Hope the season finds you well.
We are about to publish the worlds first annotated surfing bibliography,
and
have noticed your wonderfull website and hope I can get your
permission to
list you as a contributor, as well as send some books to you.
And get a little more information from you on a certain book...
Hopefully we
will publish within the next few weeks. Jan 12th 2004
A simple explanation: We have attempted to put together the first
surfing
Bibliography, more for historians than any one else. It is based
on the
pionering work of Daved Marsh. It will also have a simple price
guide and
caring for collection page. Similar to the pre-1970 Surfing
Magazine and
Poster issue we did... If you have not heard of this
I'd be more than glad to post one...
The book is broken down into 4 chapters:
Part #1 - 1779 1899 "Discovery" anything written on surfing
including
legends, we have tracked down over 80 books for this section.
Part #2 - 1900- 1959 "Rebirth" Magazines articles and books that
deal with
surfing, tons here...
Part #3 - 1960-1970 "The Boom" Surfing Books only
Part #4 - 1970-2002 "The Modern Era" A selection of surfing books
On your great site I found these
The Surf Life Saving Association of Australia
__ The Australian Surf Life Saving Handbook (Sydney: JNO, Evans
and Son
Printing 1932) Eighth Edition Revised (SB) pp. 83, 169-71, 173.
Surfing
photos. 'Specifications' and 'Instructions for use of' solid
wood Alaia
surfboard.
__ The Australian Surf Life Saving Handbook (Sydney: JNO, Evans
and Son
Printing 1938) Tenth Edition Revised (SB) pp. 83, 102, 180-3.
Surfing
photos. Includes above plus more photos.
__ The Australian Surf Life Saving Handbook (Sydney: JNO, Evans
and Son
Printing 1947) Fifteenth Edition Revised (SB) pp. 208-13, 275-6.
Surfing
photos."Specifications for making a Hollow Surfboard", "Details
of Solid
Surf Board", "Instructions for use of, rescue methods and Club
rules for
surfboards"
__ The Australian Surf Life Saving Gear and Equipment Handbook
(Sydney: The
Surf Life Saving Association of Australia 1955) (SB) ch. III,
Surf board,
Ski, Canoe, Float and Flippers is supplemented by photographs
and plans in
the White and Pink sections, respectively. CHAPTER IX
: THE FUTURE
"A review of present gear and its effectiveness under Australian
surf
conditions indicates there will be few, if any, revolutionary
changes...The
use of fiberglass ... for surf boats, boards and skis, are also
a distinct
possibility for the future." Page 67.
Australian surfboards would undergo radical change in 1956,
with the
introduction of the fibreglassed Malibu board by visiting American
and
Hawiian surfers in 1956.
-Would it be okay to reprint your quote?
-Was their any surfing in the first edition?
-have any idea when the first edition was?
Also this entry..
Inglis, Gordon
_(S)_ Sport and Pastime in Australia (London: Methuen and Co
Ltd. 1912) (HB)
pp. 248-252. Extensive coverage of many Australian sports, "An
old-established rowing club in Sydney, disbanded a little while
back, and a
friend communicating the intelligence, wrote, "The main cause
was the
depletion in the ranks - they all (body) surf."
"ŠNo recreation has taken such a hold upon the community, nor
could progress
have been more rapid. At the beginning of the twentieth century
surf bathing
in Australia was practically unknown." Precedes the visit by
Duke Kahanamoku
in 1915.
Again okay to use your quote?
Hau`oli Makahiki Hou
Aloha ke Akua, Tim
1-808-335-2704 (PH)
1-808-335-5469 (FAX)
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Tim,
Aloha,
Please make sense of what you can, ....
1. Forbes, Walter The History of the Freshwater Surf Life Saving
Club 1908 - 1958
(Freshwater: 1958)
What did it have as far as surfing material?????
I have not seen an original copy ot this - it it reproduced in Myers,
pages 1 to 36.
Surfing material...
One page (18) Surfboards - account of Duke Kahanamoku's surfing exhibition
at Freshwater, 1914 and return
(with photographs) 1956.
Plus Photographs :
Duke and crowd (no board) page 17,
Club members 1921 (with board) page 12
Body surfing 1912 - page 2
Beach views and surfboats in action 1911 to 1930 - various pages.
re: Surfboats, Surf Life Saving Clubs, etc
i. Up to 1956, surfboard riding was virtually confined to Surf Life
Saving Club members.
Note that early Australian books ...
Maxwell, C. Bede : Surf - Australians Against the Sea 1949, and
Bloomfield, John : Know-how in the Surf 1959
almost exclusively deal with Surf Life Saving Clubs.
ii. These Surf Life Saving Clubs Histories, starting 1906, (and the
Handbooks) and a major resource for the
period. The are many Club histories printed, usually on the 50th anniversary
of the club.
iii. Boat crews, particularly the sweep (the rear 'rudder' oar), were
often the noted boardriders of the day.
iv. Freshwater has particular relevance due to Duke's Kahanamoku's
first board riding exhibition, 1914.
2. you are the second person who said use Harris, Reg. S. : Heroes
of the Surf.
The other was prof. Paul Scott...
I was only going to include only true surfing books after 1960 - 2004
but if
you guys insist..... It is offically in..
Surfing material...
The Birth of the Board and photographs, pages 53 to 56
Vitually same comments as above, changes to...
iv. Manly Club probably had the largest number of boardriding enthusiasts,
and members Claude West and
Snowy McAllister dominated boardriding events from 1915 till 1927.
3. Thanks for the Walkabout ones, we have found a few as well, including
the
guy surfing shot...
But no surfboat info... No need, only surfing or body boarding
Do you have any idea of what years walkabout ran????
Printed by the Australian National Travel Association, from pre-1935,
this is a tourist friendly publication, that
may still be running, certainly into the late 1960's, see below.
On those Walkabout? no surfing content?
Early issues (1935 -1942) have covers only as noted.
Later issues have articles and photographs - did not send these before,
commonly known, may be outside your
publishing limitations....
i. Walkabout Magazine
January 1964 Volume 30 Number 1
Australian National Travel Association
18 Collins Street, Melbourne
Craig McGregor : Champion of the Surf Pages 10 - 13
Historical introduction and interview with Makaha champion, Midget
Farrelly.
Graig McGregor co-authored both Midget Farrelly's This Surfing
Life and Nat
Young's The History of Surfing.
Black and white photographs :
1. Midget Farrelly and fin (page 10),
2. Midget Farrelly surfing
3. Manly surfers check Avoca (page 11) all by Peter Rae.
4. Four of surfing at Dee Why (pages 12 - 13) by Davydd Beal.
Colour cover photograph of Bob Evans at Cresent Head by Peter
Rae.
ii. Walkabout Magazine
December 1967 Volume 33 Number 12
Australian National Travel Association
18 Collins Street, Melbourne 3000
Interview with Midget Farrelly by Ian Moffit :
Further and further into the wave.
Pages 41 - 43
Interview covers style, competition, locations, family, religion.
Colour photographs :
1. Midget Farrelly portrait by Lance Nelson, page 41.
2. Boardriders at Coogee by David Beal, page 40.
3. Surfboat (page 42),
4. life saving reel (page 42)
5. Manly Beach with Coolites, Surfoplanes and Zippy boards (pages
42 - 43)
all by Leo Duyckers.
Black and white photograph : Two boardriders at Queenscliff by
David Beal,
page 41.
4. Just to tidy up (apologies for obvious information overload)...
Taken from Australian National Maratime Musem Online Library Catalogue...
Note : 1926 edition of The Australian surf life saving handbook is
the 6th edition.
This would make the first edition definitely pre 1920.
Special note :
Sydney surfing / by Jean Curlewis & Harold Cazneaux.
Art in Australia Ltd., Sydney, 1929.
I have no previous record of this publication.
Template........ Books
System key...... albw
Title........... The Australian surf life saving handbook / issued
by the
Surf Life Saving Association of Australia.
Corp. author.... Surf Life Saving Association of Australia.
Rid number...... abn86081367
Publisher....... Sydney : The Association,
Year............ 1926
Edition......... 6th ed.
Physical desc... 159 p. : ill. plans ; 18 cm.
Illustration.... e Plans
Illustration.... a Illustrations
Material type... pap Paper-based
Document type... mon Monograph
Call number..... 797.20994 SUR (85888,85870)
Subject......... Surf Life Saving Association of Australia -
Handbooks,
manuals, etc.
Subject......... Lifesaving - Australia - Handbooks, manuals, etc.
Subject......... Surf lifesaving (Aquatic sports)- Australia -
Handbooks,
manuals, etc.
Subject......... Surf lifesaving (Aquatic sports)
Title trace....:
Type of trace.. n/a Not Applicable
Title..........
Content notes... Cover title: Australian surf life saving handbook.
C.A. Bulletin..:
Period......... n/a Not Applicable
Year........... 0
Security level.. 1
Multi-volume?... No
Template........ Books
System key...... aali
Title........... Surfing posters / editor, Richard Dowdy; photographers,
Erik
Aeder... et al
Author.......... Dowdy, Richard.
Author.......... Aeder, Erik.
LCCN............ abn8708383
Rid number...... abn87083839
Publisher....... San Clemente, Calif Lopez
Year............ 1977
Physical desc... 47 folded p. all ill. (some col.) 28 cm.
Illustration.... a Illustrations
Material type... pap Paper-based
Document type... mon Monograph
Call number..... 797.32 SUR (001233)
Subject......... Surfing - Pictorial works.
Probably and edition of Shaw, Stephen M. ?....
Template........ Books
System key...... aeoc
Title........... Surfing : the surfboard : a complete design
and history
guide for the hardcore surfer
Publisher....... San Clemente, Calif. Western Empire Publications
Year............ 1989
Physical desc... 168 p. : ill.
Illustration.... a Illustrations
Material type... pap Paper-based
Document type... mon Monograph
Call number..... 797.32 SUR
Subject......... Surfing - History.
Title trace....:
Type of trace.. n/a Not Applicable
Title..........
Template........ Books
System key...... aeqm
Title........... The Californian surfing scene and Australia /
Richard
Waterhouse
Author.......... Waterhouse, Richard.
Corp. author.... Australian National Maritime Museum.
Publisher....... Sydney ANMM
Year............ 1988
Physical desc... 11 leaves
Illustration.... n/a Not Applicable
Material type... pap Paper-based
Document type... mon Monograph
Call number..... 797.320994 WAT (42038)
Subject......... Surfing - Australia.
Subject......... Surfing - California.
Template........ Books
System key...... armo
Title........... Sydney surfing / by Jean Curlewis & Harold
Cazneaux.
Author.......... Curlewis, Jean.
Author.......... Cazneaux, Harold, 1878-1953.
Corp. author.... Art in Australia Ltd.
Rid number...... abn87259125
Publisher....... Sydney : Art in Australia Ltd.,
Year............ 1929
Physical desc... [24] p. : ill. ; 26 cm.
Illustration.... n/a Not Applicable
Material type... pap Paper-based
Document type... rar Rare Book
Call number..... ON DISPLAY IN MUSEUM. RARE 797.320994 CUR <138323>
Subject......... Beaches - New South Wales - Sydney.
Subject......... Surfing - New South Wales - Sydney.
Title trace....:
Type of trace.. n/a Not Applicable
Title..........
C.A. Bulletin..:
Period......... n/a Not Applicable
Year........... 0
Security level.. 1
Multi-volume?... No
also STATE LIBRARY OF NSW
Author
Bartlett, Vernon, 1894-
Title
You and your surfboard / by Vernon Bartlett ; with additional comment drawn
by Maurice
Bartlett.
Published
London : The Author, [1953].
Aloha ke Akua,
Geoff.
Tim DeLaVega wrote:
Thank you!!! Geoff
U are offically on da TEAM... And I'll post a few as you can
sell them on
the web site....
I really appreciate a contributer that understands Bibliography
form, u da
man!!!!
Thanks for the extra's as I have most but I liked what you said
so will use
some sections of what you said... and give you credit as a writer
as well...
and appreciate the new info... Thanks so much and keep in touch
Aloha ke Akua, Tim
http://www.napaliphoto.com
> From: geoff <realbeds@shoalhaven.net.au>
> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 23:23:57 +1100
> To: Tim DeLaVega <tim.delavega@verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: "200 Years of Surfing Literature" A Surfing Bibliography
> 1779-2004
>
> Myers, K. (Editor): No Lives Lost : The History of the Freshwater
Surf life
> Saving Club 1908 - 1983
> Printed by A. Windsor and Son Pty Ltd, 4 James Street, Wateroo.
699 2829 1983
> Hardcover, 122 pages, 99 black and white photographs, Lists
of Officials,
> Representatives,
> Competition Results and Awards.
> includes fascimilie of
> Forbes, Walter : The History of the Freshwater Surf Life Saving
Club 1908 -
> 1958
> Publishing details unknown. 1958
Tim,
Aloha
Walkabout first edtion circa November 1934.
Assuming monthly editions and counting backwards from...
WALKABOUT Magazine. Vol. 1, No. 9. July 1935.
Geoff
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Thank you for the update on INDO SURF & LINGO.
I have added the details and image to Books/N with a credit.
Online at next major upload, early February, 2004.
Geoff.
Peter Neely wrote:
Hi Geoff,
Great website.
Just thought I'd bring you up to date on the latest edition of
my book for
your listing under N for Neely -
Neely Peter
INDO SURF & LINGO
Published by Peter Neely www.indosurf.com.au PO Box 714 Noosa
Q 4567 Australia
First edition 1992. The original Surfer's Guidebook to Bali
and all
Indonesia. Regularly updated and reprinted every few months
in Kuta Bali.
Soft cover, 144 pages, 100 colour photographs, 5 color maps,
20 pages
advertising, 2 pages Discount Vouchers (worth over $200).
* Earliest Indonesian surf guide with a large section devoted
to language
translations. Updated regularly.
Thanks,
Peter
PETER NEELY
INDO SURF & LINGO
www.indosurf.com.au
mailto:peter@indosurf.com.au
PO Box 714 Noosa Heads Qld 4567 Australia
Phone & Fax: (+ 61 7) 5447 4469
Please only call 8am to 6pm Brisbane time
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Nevada details, with a credit, added to Manufacturers' details
Online at next major upgrade, Feb 20004.
Thought address maybe George's River Road, Enfield ?
Also, note entry for Age Surfboards, circa 1969, Bill Cilla's first
label.
Thanks again,
Geoff.
Greg Clark wrote:
G'Day Geoff, Glad to be of assistance. One other snippet
regarding your listing of Surfboard manufacturers that you may already
know relates to Nirvana Surfboards on the Central Coast. They
were originally known as Nevada Surfboards and ran ads in Surfing
World in about 1971 featuring Billy Cilia under the Nevada name.
Presumably they changed the name to Nirvana when they
realised that a landlocked US state bore no relationship with
surfing. They kept the same typeface for their logo
though. Regards Greg Clark
----- Original Message -----
From: geoff
To: Greg Clark
Sent: Friday, November 21,
2003 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: Surf Magazines
Greg,
Thanks for for positive
comments and the information.
There is no reason why this
was missed.
Entry now reads...
Surf (Australia)
1976 -1979
Editor : Steve Core
Bi-monthly
First Edition Vol 1 No.
1 November 1976
Strong Cronulla influence,
Steve Core made surfboards
in the late 60's, photographer, surf film maker (In Natural Flow,
circa 1973), film distributor
and published a magazine.
This magazine was overlooked
until October 2003,
This omission was pointed
out by Greg Clark, via email..
Thanks Greg.
Image right ; Vol 1 No.
8 February 1978 $1.45
Cover : Rabbit Batholomew/Stradbroke
Island by MartinTullemans
This will be online at the
next major upload - Dec/Jan.
Thanks for the pointer,
Geoff
Greg Clark wrote:
Hey Guys, Came
across another Australian surfing magazine you might like to add to your
list. Surf was
published by
Steve Core in Cronulla I think. I have a copy of the third edition
but I don't know how long it lasted
after that.
It was published around 1977 or 78 as my edition has a feature on Hawaii
77. Steve Core seemed to
try everything
in surfing in that he made surfboards in the late 60's, made surf movies
and published a
magazine. Great
site
RegardsGreg Clark
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Rod,
Thanks for the update.
My interest in prone boards continues... Paipo* Catalogue now numbers
26 entries.
Latest additions of include a very interesting wide tailed board, as
ridden by ...
Sean Ross, Pipeline, Hawaii.
Board by Paul Lindbergh's Hawaii Paipo Designs.
Photo: Alan (Bud) McCray.
#00000193 1960 Paipo by Farfor, 3 ft 5'' Tapa cloth laminated bottom.
Geoff.
rodNDtube wrote:
Please note that I have a new email address:
new: rod2@bcpl.net
Please update your address books.
Hope all are doing well and have a great holiday.
Rod Rodgers
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Is difficult....
1. My area is Australian boards, this is surely USA.
Strongly suggest you post images and details at
http://www.swaylocks.com/
2. I have no details of this manufacturer and from your notes very
probably a backyard maker, which makes
tracing without local information almost impossible.
3. Images are most helpful... for example
The rails have a lip down the center - which suggests to me a novice
board maker, but the truth is it may
have been a style at the time they made this.
This may be the overlap to the deck and bottom filler coats, as you
suggest, or a design feature.
4. late 60's early 70's board.
Seems correct, given..
Length 7' 6".
Width here is critical - the wider the board (+21'') 1968 -9, narrower
(+18 '') circa 1972
double reinforced fiberglass rails. - Volan glass overlaps?, dates
before 1975.
5. Of most interest is...
It has a home-made "fin box" which is really a three sided structure
made out of resin with
holes drilled into it so that the fin would sit snuggly in the "slot".
Probably indicates before 1972-3 when standard Bahne fin box introduced
(the common longboard box still used today).
1967 to 1973 saw many variations on the removable fin, eg Waveset,
and in fin design.
6. Should I keep it in a safe place or surf it?
Try to find more about the board, make sure if you do surf it that
you don't damage the finbox or lose the fin.
Geoff
Dennis Kahn wrote:
I found what I think is a late 60's early 70's board. It has
a home-made
"fin box" which is really a three sided structure made out of
resin with
holes drilled into it so that the fin would sit snuggly in the
"slot".
It is about 7' 6" double reinforced fiberglass rails. the logo
on the hull
of the board is a seahorse with half circles drawn around it
stopping at an
empty border with the words "board by Morrow". It has in smaller
writting
that it is registered to a R. "sombody" the words are faded
and hard to
read.
It is a pintail. The rails have a lip down the center - which
suggests to me
a novice board maker, but the truth is it may have been a style
at the time
they made this. It is about 2 1/2" to 3" thick.
Does the name Morrow mean anything. Should I keep it in a safe
place or surf
it?
What do you think?
Thank you;
Dennis Kahn
Danny,
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1. Has any one ridden the restoration
- unlikely, with major restoration the board probably weighs
a ton, and also now very valuable.
2. does any one have any experience of the original concept
- undoubtely, see Kelly.
See below.
3.Would it be possible to make a modern version of the original?
- the step bottom has been used in later designs, notably Ben Apia's
Stinger 1974
See http://www.surfresearch.com.au/00000043.html
- it was also used on kneeboards in the late 1970's
- also has been used in other craft, eg speed boats, sailboards
1. does it work?
In most cases, preformance does not seem to be greatly improved by
this feature.
Many designers have used it, but none have maintained it as a standard
feature.
Shaping (and glassing!) such design features can be difficult.
Personal experience : rode a 6ft 8'' Stepped bottom Stinger in 1976.
I could not detect/feel the stepped bottom, but this was not overall
a good board.
Geoff
Surfchow@aol.com wrote:
hi geoff
very interested in john kelly since reading his book a
few years ago so was
delighted to come across a restoration of a boared based on
his design on your
site. My question ;does it work?Has any one ridden the restoration
or does
any one have any experience of the original concept.Would it
be possible to make
a modern version of the original?
Your thoughts,
Danny {uk}
Judy,
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1. I do not have an original article.
2. Copies of the original article are rare and highly sought by surf
collectors.
3. The web page copy was sent to me by an contributor, scanned at at
size so that
dimensions could not be read.
4. I believe the article also has some instruction text and photographs.
5. I think these may be available in a current (2002-3?) book about
Tom Blake, unfortunately I have not
seen/don't have a copy of this.
6. I am still searching for orignal copy for my resources.
If you have no luck elsewhere send this again sometime latter
in 2004.
Geoff.
Judy Malloy wrote:
I and looking for the article you have on your website of1940
Tom Blake Hollow Paddle Board that appeared in the Popular
Mechanics July 1937 Bolume 68 Number 1 pages 114-117.
The print is small and I cannot make it out and I was wondering if you
could possibly email me the article. If you can I would
greatly appreciate your efforts. Thank you very much. Judy
Malloytmalloy@centurytel.net
Brook and Fenella,
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Thank you for your positive comments.
1. Entry for Sunova Surfboards added to Manufacturers Index.
Online at next major upload, February 2004.
2. Possibly of interest...
Cordingley 6ft 8'' single fin shaped by Greg Laurenson (appox 1976).
- Would you have a decal image ?
- Could you check spelling of "Laurenson" ?
I have Greg Lorenson.
You are probaly correct.
Henri 6'0 twinfin
This is probably a MR circa 1978 model, but very slight chance it dates
from 1970-1.
Compare and contrast from The Catalogue...
1970 Walsh Twin Fin, 1970 Hansen Twin Fin and 1971 Pat Morgan Twin
Fin
with
1978 MR Twin Fin and 1979 MR Twin Fin.
Geoff.
Brook and Fenella wrote:
Hi Geoff. Awesomes site. I have been trolling though it
for the last 30 mins. I noticed an omission to the manufacturers
catalog.
Have you heard of Sunova Surfboards, Mandurah WA. Owner/Shaper
Bert Berger. His main focus are balsa covered foam
boards, (Mals and shortboards). The balsa laminate is
vacuumed onto a shaped polysterene blank and set with epoxy resin.
Can
email pics if you are interested.I also have a motley collection
of other boards but I will spend some more time checking your
existing cataloge to see if I have anything unusual.Possibly
of interset: 6'0 Henri twinfin, old battered 8'3 Hot Buttered miniMal?
shaped by Mark Rabbige, 6'8 Cordingley single fin shaped by
Greg Laurenson (appox 1976). Regards,Brook Ekers
Jeff,
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I think your enquiry was forwarded to me from Goodtime Surfboards, Qld.
From the surfresearch - Manufacturers Index...
RON Surfboards
702 Canterbury Road Belmore NSW
Phone : 75 1989
1962 - 1965: (see Crane Industries)
Geoff McCoy finish coating, progressing to shaping (1962?).
William Morton finish coating
These two would form M and M Surfboards in 1967.
Geoff McCoy would start McCoy Surfboards, 1970.
Thanks to Geoff McCoy
1. A company with a large out put, included export sales to the USA.
2. Not usually considered valuable by Australian collectors ...
- stock designs available in department and sports stores, not from
a custom shop.
- most collectors have an example due to their large output.
Mine is a very used example and is not catalogued online.
2. Production from circa 1962, ceased circa 1965.
3. The use of the red, plastic Hatchett fin glassed on
is unusual and probably denotes later/last of the line.
4. Note Hatchet fin (Dewey Weber design, circa 1965) may
not be original which would invalidate 3. above
- carefully check for any evidence of fin replacement.
6. 9ft 6 '' and 3/4" wooden stringer are common/standard for this manufacturer.
7. serial number 1627 - unfortunately these numbers are usually not
helpful.
8. Despite 2. above, I have had many enquires about these boards and
I am currenty preparing an entry
for an excellent original condition local example.
This will be online sometime mid 2004.
Jeff Modlin wrote:
Hello:
I am trying to get information regarding an old Australian surfboard
that I
am interested in restoring;
Any information (specifically age) would really be appreciated.
Thanks.
jeffmodlin@hotmail.com
>From: "Jeff Modlin" <jeffmodlin@hotmail.com>
>To: bc@austrlianlongboarder.com
>CC: jeffmodlin@hotmail.com
>Subject: Old Longboard !!!
>Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 16:46:58 -0800
>
>
>I am hoping someone can help me. My friend gave me an old Australian
>Longboard and I am
>trying to identify how old it is.
>
>It is 9'6" Long
>It was made by RON Surfboards
>It has a red, plastic Hatchett fin glassed on
>It has a 3/4" wooden stringer
>It has the serial number 1627
>
>Can anyone give me some info on this board? I want to restore
it and surf
>it here
>in San Diego. Thanks for any help. You can contact me at;
>
>jeffmodlin@hotmail.com
alain,
bonjour
Sorry, this seems beyond my scope.
Last I heard of Peter Troy was in Noosa, Oueensland.
I thought there was a feature on Peter in an Australian magazine in
the last couple of years but cannot find a
copy.
Can only suggest your try
Surfinfo: Surfing Australia Industry Database- a comprehensive commerical
site by Bruce Channon with
extensive links news updates and some retrospective articles.
Unfortunately MIKE HICKEY and JIMMY DICKER are unknown to me.
Several resources - all post 1965, which no doubt you already are aware
of,....
1. Any movies by Rodney Sumpter
2. Paul Witzig : Hot Generation
Part 3: France- Rodney Stumper/Union Jack board
Note red board with clear Greenough Spoon type concave nose (Paul Witzig's?)
that appears several times in
transit in Part 3.
3. Paul Witzig : Evolution
Part 4 France : xxx?/ Hendaye/Guethary/Hossegor (double exposure)
Wayne Lynch #3 : Blue with wide white pinlines, clear deck with
large/small decals
Wayne Lynch #4 : white with red deck panels
Nat Young #2 Yellow Weber Ski/Tracker, 8 ft
Nat Young #3 clear with three glueline Round tail 7 ft : 'The Young
Weber' -painted*
Ted Spencer #3 clear/three glueline Round tail 7 ft *
*Three clear/three stringer boards made at Michael Barrland Surfboards,
France.
Part 5 Morrocco/Portugal
Wayne Lynch #5 clear three glueline Round tail 7 ft *
Nat Young #3
Ted Spencer #3
Part 6 France : La Barre
Wayne Lynch #6 ? Double ender , white with red deck ? could be
#4
Nat Young #3
Ted Spencer #3
4. Young, Nat : Nat’s Nat and that’s that – an autobiography
Nymboiba Press, 8 Bay Street, Angourie, NSW 2462, Australia 1998
Details European surfing adventures, various chapters.
Good luck,
Geoff.
"alain.gardinier" wrote:
Geoff,
bonjour !
I'm lucky I came visiting your site looking abgout some surf
info.
I'm a surf filmaker and writer writing a book (my 4th) , this
time on
history of french surfing.
Some aussie surfers came over in 62-63-64 and had great impact
on the
history.
i'm trying to contact us for some info, souvenirs or photos.
Then, I
wan to send them the book (out late march)
can you help me out on it ?
One of them is PETER TROY , winner of the First 'La Barre
International' . I know he's still a big name in oz .
MIKE HICKEY and JIMMY DICKER
Thanks.
Happy new year
Alain Gardinier
Zuma Productions (www.zumaprod.com)
Max,
Glad the plans arrived, hoped they survived the flood.
Many thanks for your kind offer,
Geoff.
Postal address..
Geoff Cater
PO Box 37
Shoalhaven Heads NSW 2535
Maxwell Pendergast wrote:
> Hi Geoff
> Thank you ,yes you
did send the details of the Tom Blake paddle
> board, which were much appreciated.(I havn't had time to build it
yet!)
> I was also going
to reply, but lost your address when we had a
> minor flood after a storm last May which flooded my office and I
lost a
> few files which were stored down low.
> As you seem to be
interested in the subject I will send you a
> copy of The Surf Life Saving Association Of Australia Gear and
> Equipment Hand Book No.2 which was printed in 1971 if it would be
of
> any intrest to you, if so would you like to email me your address...
>
yours sincerly
>
Max Pendergast.
Rob,
Thank you for your positive comments.
re: Pa and Ma Bendall
1. Some details and image to surfresearch - history - surfers' biographies.
Copy below (internal links to Rabbit's book won't work).
2. Some details added to surfresearch - history - contests.
3. Castaway link added to surfresearch - references - web links
To be online at next major upload, Feb 2004.
All with thanks.
Geoff
Pa (and Ma) Bendall
Well known late-starter surfing couple, they toured the coast 1965
- 1973.
Pa surfed Hawaii 1967-1968.
Their enthusiasm and Pa's black -eye patch were lengendary
(see Rabbit Batholomew, pages 45 - 46)
Pa Bendall died circa 1972-3.
Pa Bendall Memorial Contest early 1973, Caloundra, Queensland. Won
by Richard Harvey.
(see Rabbit Batholomew, pages 88 - 89)
Pa Bendall Memorial Contest early 1975, Caloundra, Queensland. Won
by MP?
Noted for the extreme behaviour of Keith Paull.
(see Rabbit Batholomew, pages 126 - 127)
Rob, January 2004, emailed a postcard (caption details edited above,
image left) noted..In a surf chat forum
recently I asked if anyone knew what happened to Pa Bendall.
I remember seeing him in Newcastle in the 70's at the Mattara Surf
Contest, forerunner to the Mark Richards
Pro held here each year.
The image stuck in my mind throughout the years with his eye patch
& Commer Van with board racks down
the driverside of the van.A bit of a legend at the time I couldn't
find anything on the net about him, except a
mention of the annual contest held in his honour at surfing Australia
http://www.surfingaustralia.com/events.asp?eid=12449
Thanks to Rob.
rob & carol wrote:
Hi Geoff, In a surf chat forum recently I asked if anyone knew
what happened to Pa Bendall. I remember
seeing him in Newcastle in the 70's at the Mattara Surf Contest,
forerunner to the Mark Richards Pro held
here each year. The image stuck in my mind throughout the years
with his eye patch & Commer Van with
board racks down the driverside of the van. A bit of a legend
at the time I couldn't find anything on the net
about him, except a mention of the annual contest held in his
honour at surfing Australia
http://www.surfingaustralia.com/events.asp?eid=12449 I know
your site is in a state of continual building.
Hope you can use the attached articleI have attached that a
mate has sent me about Pa. Another great
website devoted to surfing & its lifestyle is Ron &
Sibylle Taylors 'Castaway' found at
http://users.chariot.net.au/%7ergtsm/ Keep up the great
work on the site. It is truly inspirational.
Rob
Matt,
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Sorry, I do not give valuations.
Like all collectables, it depends on condition, scarcity, collector
demand and location
(for example, I am in Australia and specialise in Australian surfboards).
However, this US board was designed by an Australian surfer, and I
have some information....
Please note : Dimensions and images are a great help.
re : Bing Surfboards - The Foil
Designed by Keith Paull, circa 1968 - 1970
Usually 7 to 8 ft, pin nose, round tail.
Commonly Waveset fin box and moulded plastic fin.
Commonly Australia theme logo.- see Attachment 2.
1. Keith Paull, from Coolangatta, was a top Australian surfer 1965 to
1973.
see Paul Witzig Hot Generation.
2. Australian Champion 1968, beating both Farrelly and Nat.
3. Australian competitor at Puerto Rico World Contest, 1968.
see Paul Witzig Evolution.
4. Australian shapes for Hohnesee Surfboards (Queensland) and Peter
Clarke Surfboards in the 1960's.
5. Own labels...
Keith Paull Surfboards, Kirra Qld circa 1970 -1972.
Harmony Surfboards , Kirra Qld circa 1972 -1976.
Sponsored surfers included Rabbit Batholomew and Guy Omerod.
6. The Foil design for Bing Surfboards USA, second generation short
board following Vee bottoms, 1967-8.
Heavily promoted in the US, like many Australian designs in this period...
Midget Farrelly Stringerless and World Contest Model, by G&S Surfboards
USA
Nat Young's Ski, by Weber Surfboards USA
Bob McTavish's Tracker, by Morey-Pope Surfboards USA
7. Keith Paull (and Foil) starred in Greg MacGillivray, and Greg Freeman's
Waves Of Change 1969
Unfortunately not available on video/DVD.
8. Major Hawaiian performance, huge Makaha 1969.
9. Randy Rarrick credits Keith Paull as the first surfer to ride Supertubes,
South Afria.
10. Keith suffered a major breakdown and ceased all surf activity circa
1975.
Reference : Chris Bystrom :' The Sleeper ' (A Retospective) : Pacfic Longboarder Vol 2 #1 pages 32-45
I hope this has been of some assistance.
Geoff.
Postscript :
In digging out all the relevant (and irrelevant) references,
I did come across an old (13 Jan 2000) print-out from
ebay for an excellent example of a Bing Foil that sold for US$545.00.
"Dingwall, Matt" wrote:
I have a BIng "the Foil" board and want to get info on how old
it may be and
what it might be worth. Any info. you might have would be helpful.
Thanks!
Matt S. Dingwall
Recreation Coordinator
City of Newport Beach
(949) 644-3152
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Sorry, my area is Australian boards and I have no knowledge of Royal
Hawaiian boards.
Suggest you try...
http://www.swaylocks.com/
or
http://www.surfingheritage.com/
or
http://www.surfNhula.com/
Please note :
Dimensions, features (fin, decor, etc) and images are a great help
in determining board history.
Good luck,
Geoff.
DKpics@aol.com wrote:
> Hi!
> Back in 1970, I bought a Ten foot Royal Hawaiian, registered surf
board, from a guy I knew in Kansas City. I was on my way to school in Santa
Barbara.Do you have any info on "Royal Hawaiian" boards?
> Thanks,
> Dick Kaplan: DKpics@aol.com
Coffey,
Many books have sections devoted to surf instruction, one of the better
and easily
accessed is
Young, Nat : Surfing Fundamentals
Palm Beach Press, 40 Ocean Road, Palm Beach NSW 2108
First published 1985, but several later editions and curently available.
Includes section on board repair.
I like..
Conway, John : Adventure Sports : Surfing
Salamander Books Ltd., 129 – 137 York Way, London
N7 9LG, United Kingdom.
1988
A well-produced instructional manual from English author/photographer
with
excellent illustrations (Simon Evans).
Now old, available second hand online at abebooks.com
Later publications include..
McLaren, James : Learn to Surf
Lyons and Burford, 31 West 21 Street. New York, NY 10010. 1997
Werner, Doug : Surfer's Start-Up : A Beginner's Guide to Surfing
- Second
Edition
Start Up Sports/Tracks Publishing
140 Brightwood Avenue, Chula Vista, California, CA 91910. 1999
Moriarty, Jay and Gallagher, Chris : The Ultimate Guide to Surfing
Yhe Lyons Press, 123 West Street New york, New York 10011 2001
A basic surfing how-to book with no outstanding features - the
inclusion of
"Ultimate" in the title a definite exaggeration.
Strongly suggest you check your local libraries for sufing books.
The library catalogue may be available online.
Geoff.
Coffey Halloran wrote:
Hi,I was looking for a good book(s) on both learning to
surf and also surfboard repairs/maintenance. Preferably something
fairly
current - not written in 1970! Have had a look in several
bookshops - most books seem to be on history of surfing or just action
pictorials. Do you have any suggestions on books or best
place to look/get them ?
RegardsJames Coffey
David,
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Many apologies...
I have had busy year and have been struggling getting information prepared
for the page.
Unfortunately I have been struggling maintaining email correspondence
- most enquies take me away from
areas that I'm really interested in.
Gave up on email replies for 2003, but have been clearing them, about
5 a day for the last three weeks.
Further apologies - can not find your list of retorations.
They are not in this computer - possibly on discs saved from previous
crashed hard drive.
If you have a current copy, can you forward it.
I'm sure there were several items of interest.
I have had a couple of comments about the King step tail and
I am very happy with the entry.
Attached is the latest, do you have any comments to add?
Many thanks,
Geoff
Surfchow@aol.com wrote:
hi geoff
very interested in john kelly since reading his book a
few years ago so was delighted to come across a
restoration of a boared based on his design on your site.
My question ;does it work?
Has any one ridden the restoration or does any one have any experience
of the original concept.
Would it be possible to make a modern version of the original?
Your thoughts,
Danny {uk}
Reply
Danny,
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1. Has any one ridden the restoration
- unlikely, with major restoration the board probably weighs
a ton, and also now very
valuable.
2. does any one have any experience of the original concept
- undoubtely, see Kelly.
See below.
3. Would it be possible to make a modern version of the original?
- the step bottom has been used in later designs, notably Ben Apia's
Stinger 1974
See http://www.surfresearch.com.au/00000043.html
- it was also used on kneeboards in the late 1970's
- also has been used in other craft, eg speed boats, sailboards
4. does it work?
In most cases, performance does not seem to be greatly improved by
this feature.
Many designers have used it, but none have maintained it as a standard
feature.
Shaping (and glassing!) such design features can be difficult.
Personal experience : rode a 6ft 8'' Stepped bottom Stinger in 1976.
I could not detect/feel the stepped bottom, but this was not overall
a good board.
Geoff
jarmanplatt wrote:
Geoff. How are you.Was wondering if you have had a chance to
look at the list of restorations I sent you. There are a few more to
add. Let me know if you are interested.
David.
James,
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or
whim.
Thank you for your compliment.
1. I do not have an original article.
2. Copies of the original article are rare and highly sought by surf
collectors.
3. The web page copy was sent to me by an contributor, scanned at at
size
so that
dimensions could not be read.
4. I believe the article also has some instruction text and photographs.
5. I think these may be available in a current (2002-3?) book about
Tom
Blake, unfortunately I have not
seen/don't have a copy of this.
6. I am still searching for orignal copy for my resources.
If and when I access full copies, the current page will be updated
with
larger images and any further information.
If you have no luck elsewhere send this again sometime latter
in 2004.
Geoff.
ritha wrote:
> first of all, you have a great site...
>
> i found it because i am looking for the plans to build tom blake's
> hollow chambered board. i live in huntington beach california,
am an
> avid surfer, and want to build one to ride. i have a passion
to ride
> and feel what they did... to first build your own then take it out
and
> ride it.
>
> do you have the whole article from popular mechanics? could
i get a
> copy of it? or could you direct me to somewhere that i can get a
copy?
>
> thanks,
> james
Subject:
Re: tom blake's board
Date:
Wed, 14 Jan 2004 19:00:11 +1100
From:
geoff <realbeds@shoalhaven.net.au>
To:
ritha <ritha@socal.rr.com>
References:
1
James,
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or
whim.
Thank you for your compliment.
1. I do not have an original article.
2. Copies of the original article are rare and highly sought by surf
collectors.
3. The web page copy was sent to me by an contributor, scanned at at
size
so that
dimensions could not be read.
4. I believe the article also has some instruction text and photographs.
5. I think these may be available in a current (2002-3?) book about
Tom
Blake, unfortunately I have not
seen/don't have a copy of this.
6. I am still searching for orignal copy for my resources.
If and when I access full copies, the current page will be updated
with
larger images and any further information.
If you have no luck elsewhere send this again sometime latter
in 2004.
Geoff.
ritha wrote:
> first of all, you have a great site...
>
> i found it because i am looking for the plans to build tom blake's
> hollow chambered board. i live in huntington beach california,
am an
> avid surfer, and want to build one to ride. i have a passion
to ride
> and feel what they did... to first build your own then take it out
and
> ride it.
>
> do you have the whole article from popular mechanics? could
i get a
> copy of it? or could you direct me to somewhere that i can get a
copy?
>
> thanks,
> james
Dustin,
Quickly
- great to hear from you.
Before any new boards, I have ugraded the image format (much larger)
for all the entries accept yours.
Unfortunately do not have originals that you sent me , and these were
resized down - and won't re-size back.
#00000162 Bennett Round nose -round tail. 6ft 10''
#00000163 Pat Morgan Swallow tail 6ft 9'' Kym Thompson
#00000165 Mark Richards Twin Fin 2 6 ft ? K.P.
These are denoted in the catalogue with light text, not with emphasis.
Geoff
Back soon.
Geoff Scott wrote:
Hi Geoff, I am not sure if you remember me but I submitted some
boards on the site a few years ago. I finally have a digital
camera and am in a position to submit a few more interesting
pieces. I am having trouble downloading the page template, it
comes onto my computer as a mass of HTML files that are simply
images that make up the total page. Are you able to email me
a single file template? If so please email to dusty336@hotmail.com
CheersDustin
Phil,
Thank you for your positive comments.
Thank you for your positive contribution.
In fact, I'm stoked!
In compliling the entry I looked at every photgraph of Lopez I could
find,
in the vain hope of finding something to confirm it's provenance.
The Steve Wilkins photographs confirm...
- board shaped, owned and riden by Gerry Lopez.
- manufacturing date pre-1975.
- purchased by Terry Richardson in Hawaii, circa 1977.
I have updated the entry for BOARD HISTORY...
Phil Abbott wrote, January 2004...
the Gerry Lopez Lightning Bolt (#181) that you have listed on
your site looks exactly like the one in the
attached 1975 photos of Gerry's board quiver by Steve Wilkings (source
unknown).
Many thanks to Phil.
Two of the attached images below, note white board in foreground with
leg rope...
I used the long shot and one of the close ups.
This will be online at next major upload, Feb-March 2004.
If you have time, a few questions...
1. Do you have source details for the photographs, ie date, volume,
number,page
I assume SURFER or SURFING magazine 1975.
2. The images have a lot of detail, would it be possible to rescan
to 300 pixels (height)
- resized (unsuitable) examples (one cropped) attached.
I would particularly like to identify any boards with leg rope/plugs.
3. Can you confirm Rory Russell in blue tee-shirt.
Many thanks,
Geoff.
Phil Abbott wrote:
Hi Geoff,
I really enjoy your website! The information contained on it is invaluable.
I couldn't help but notice that the Gerry Lopez Lightning Bolt
that you
have listed on your site looks exactly like the one in the attached
1975
photos of Gerry's board quiver by Steve Wilkings.
Take care,
Phil
azza,
Thanks for the email...
Manufacturer's listing is always hard to pin down a starting date -
most entries are taken from magazine articles
or ads that obviously come after a manufacturer's first boards were
made.
Please note that these pages try to focus on the earliest builders
(up to 1970's) because there are few
resources and quickly disappearing memories.
There is a mass (overload?) of resouces for 1990's manufacturers.
I have updated the BJ entry to read...
B.J. Surfboards
1974
1976 Botany NSW
Bob Hanson, Richard Evans;
1977 Kevin McKell and Rob McLaggan;
1979 Richard Evans;
azza wrote, January 2004 (edited)... B.J surfboards they actually started
in 1974, ... my dad still has his board
in our garage that he got made in 1974.Thanks to azza.
Can you confirm...
1. Dad's board purchased from Botany address.
I think this factory was used by another surfboard maker at some time.
2. A decal scan would be great (oversized - I can always resize down
to fit, but not up).
3. Does the board have a shaper decal or markings, or can Dad recall
either Bob Hanson, Richard Evans
I have updated the BJ entry to read...
Crozier Surfboards
Mona Vale NSW
1970 ?
Shapers Chris Crozier;
1972
Shapers Peter Crawford;1976
Shapers Paul Connors;
1979
Shapers Chris Crozier;
azza wrote, January 2004 (edited)...Crozier boards, they're still going
today.
My mate's uncle is Russell Crozier who still shapes occasionally.
Chris Crozier died in the late 80's i think he said (i have to check
that out again).
Various people are shaping for them at the moment.Thanks to azza.
Can you confirm...
1. Chris's date of demise.
2. Did Russell shape/glass/sand boards in the 1970's?
These entries online at next major upload, Feb-March 2004.
Thanks,
Geoff
AzzA wrote:
hey dude, hows it going?i'm just writing in relation to your
surfing webpage, the shapers index pages...They look pretty good,
you've got heaps of info on there..I just thought i'd let you
know a little more about some board shapers. First of all, with B.J
surfboards they actually started in 1974, the only reason i
know this is because my dad still has his board in our garage that he
got made in 1974, i'll take a photo of the logo on the bottom
of the board for your archives aswell.Secondly with Crozier boards,
they're still going today. My mates uncle is russel crozier
who still shapes now occasionally. Chris Crozier died in the late 80's
i
think he said (i have to check that out again). Various people
are shaping for them at the moment, they make real good boards.
I'm getting one made up for my old man right now..just htought
i'd let you know a little of what i know,
cheers!azza
maddock,
Yes, slipped up here.
Johhny Rhodes and Tony Nichols Surfboards decal is/was online at Catalogue
#200 - supplementary
images, awaitng filing but was missed.
Also muli stringer model circa 1966 online at Appendix, Design and
Decor - Stringers.
Both of these images and text below added to Manufacturers Index J
Johhny Rhodes and Tony Nichols Surfboards
1962 ?
Cronulla Surf Shop
77 Street Cronulla, Sydney
maddock wrote, January 2004 (edited)...
John Rhodes, a local Cronulla surfboard maker.
He shaped my first new board in 1962.
Thanks to maddock.
Image below...
Detailed stringers by John Rhodes/Tony Nicholas Sufboards,
circa 1966
This entrie online at next major upload, Feb-March 2004.
Can you confirm...
1. your first board from above address
2. A Rhodes/Nichols decal
3. John also worked for many other shops, any ideas.
4. Know anything about Tony Nichols
Thanks for the info,
Geoff
maddock wrote:
Hi Geoff. Have just found your surfresearch website, and
its alphabetical listing. I used to live at Cronulla in
1950s-60s, and surfed at numerous breaks in the Cronulla area.
I notice that your alphabetical listing doesn't
include John Rhodes, a local Cronulla surfboard maker.
He shaped my first new board in 1962, and was on
the local surfing scene as surfer and boardmaker for several
years.
regards,
John
Tim,
Aloha
Walkabout first edtion circa November 1934.
Assuming monthly editions and counting backwards from...
WALKABOUT Magazine. Vol. 1, No. 9. July 1935.
Geoff
Peter,
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Thank you for the update on INDO SURF & LINGO.
I have added the details and image to Books/N with a credit.
Online at next major upload, early February, 2004.
Geoff.
Peter Neely wrote:
Hi Geoff,
Great website.
Just thought I'd bring you up to date on the latest edition of
my book for
your listing under N for Neely -
Neely Peter
INDO SURF & LINGO
Published by Peter Neely www.indosurf.com.au PO Box 714 Noosa
Q 4567 Australia
First edition 1992. The original Surfer's Guidebook to Bali
and all
Indonesia. Regularly updated and reprinted every few months
in Kuta Bali.
Soft cover, 144 pages, 100 colour photographs, 5 color maps,
20 pages
advertising, 2 pages Discount Vouchers (worth over $200).
* Earliest Indonesian surf guide with a large section devoted
to language
translations. Updated regularly.
Thanks,
Peter
PETER NEELY
INDO SURF & LINGO
www.indosurf.com.au
mailto:peter@indosurf.com.au
PO Box 714 Noosa Heads Qld 4567 Australia
Phone & Fax: (+ 61 7) 5447 4469
Please only call 8am to 6pm Brisbane time
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Nevada details, with a credit, added to Manufacturers' details
Online at next major upgrade, Feb 20004.
Thought address maybe George's River Road, Enfield ?
Also, note entry for Age Surfboards, circa 1969, Bill Cilla's first
label.
Thanks again,
Geoff.
Greg Clark wrote:
G'Day Geoff, Glad to be of assistance. One other snippet
regarding your listing of Surfboard manufacturers that you may already
know relates to Nirvana Surfboards on the Central Coast. They
were originally known as Nevada Surfboards and ran ads in Surfing
World in about 1971 featuring Billy Cilia under the Nevada name.
Presumably they changed the name to Nirvana when they
realised that a landlocked US state bore no relationship with
surfing. They kept the same typeface for their logo
though. Regards Greg Clark
----- Original Message -----
From: geoff
To: Greg Clark
Sent: Friday, November 21,
2003 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: Surf Magazines
Greg,
Thanks for for positive
comments and the information.
There is no reason why this
was missed.
Entry now reads...
Surf (Australia)
1976 -1979
Editor : Steve Core
Bi-monthly
First Edition Vol 1 No.
1 November 1976
Strong Cronulla influence,
Steve Core made surfboards
in the late 60's, photographer, surf film maker (In Natural Flow,
circa 1973), film distributor
and published a magazine.
This magazine was overlooked
until October 2003,
This omission was pointed
out by Greg Clark, via email..
Thanks Greg.
Image right ; Vol 1 No.
8 February 1978 $1.45
Cover : Rabbit Batholomew/Stradbroke
Island by MartinTullemans
This will be online at the
next major upload - Dec/Jan.
Thanks for the pointer,
Geoff
Greg Clark wrote:
Hey Guys, Came
across another Australian surfing magazine you might like to add to your
list. Surf was
published by
Steve Core in Cronulla I think. I have a copy of the third edition
but I don't know how long it lasted
after that.
It was published around 1977 or 78 as my edition has a feature on Hawaii
77. Steve Core seemed to
try everything
in surfing in that he made surfboards in the late 60's, made surf movies
and published a
magazine. Great
site
RegardsGreg Clark
Cindy,
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Rod,
Thanks for the update.
My interest in prone boards continues... Paipo* Catalogue now numbers
26 entries.
Latest additions of include a very interesting wide tailed board, as
ridden by ...
Sean Ross, Pipeline, Hawaii.
Board by Paul Lindbergh's Hawaii Paipo Designs.
Photo: Alan (Bud) McCray.
#00000193 1960 Paipo by Farfor, 3 ft 5'' Tapa cloth laminated bottom.
Geoff.
rodNDtube wrote:
Please note that I have a new email address:
new: rod2@bcpl.net
Please update your address books.
Hope all are doing well and have a great holiday.
Rod Rodgers
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Is difficult....
1. My area is Australian boards, this is surely USA.
Strongly suggest you post images and details at
http://www.swaylocks.com/
2. I have no details of this manufacturer and from your notes very
probably a backyard maker, which makes
tracing without local information almost impossible.
3. Images are most helpful... for example
The rails have a lip down the center - which suggests to me a novice
board maker, but the truth is it may
have been a style at the time they made this.
This may be the overlap to the deck and bottom filler coats, as you
suggest, or a design feature.
4. late 60's early 70's board.
Seems correct, given..
Length 7' 6".
Width here is critical - the wider the board (+21'') 1968 -9, narrower
(+18 '') circa 1972
double reinforced fiberglass rails. - Volan glass overlaps?, dates
before 1975.
5. Of most interest is...
It has a home-made "fin box" which is really a three sided structure
made out of resin with
holes drilled into it so that the fin would sit snuggly in the "slot".
Probably indicates before 1972-3 when standard Bahne fin box introduced
(the common longboard box still used today).
1967 to 1973 saw many variations on the removable fin, eg Waveset,
and in fin design.
6. Should I keep it in a safe place or surf it?
Try to find more about the board, make sure if you do surf it that
you don't damage the finbox or lose the fin.
Geoff
Dennis Kahn wrote:
I found what I think is a late 60's early 70's board. It has
a home-made
"fin box" which is really a three sided structure made out of
resin with
holes drilled into it so that the fin would sit snuggly in the
"slot".
It is about 7' 6" double reinforced fiberglass rails. the logo
on the hull
of the board is a seahorse with half circles drawn around it
stopping at an
empty border with the words "board by Morrow". It has in smaller
writting
that it is registered to a R. "sombody" the words are faded
and hard to
read.
It is a pintail. The rails have a lip down the center - which
suggests to me
a novice board maker, but the truth is it may have been a style
at the time
they made this. It is about 2 1/2" to 3" thick.
Does the name Morrow mean anything. Should I keep it in a safe
place or surf
it?
What do you think?
Thank you;
Dennis Kahn
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1. Has any one ridden the restoration
- unlikely, with major restoration the board probably weighs
a ton, and also now very valuable.
2. does any one have any experience of the original concept
- undoubtely, see Kelly.
See below.
3.Would it be possible to make a modern version of the original?
- the step bottom has been used in later designs, notably Ben Apia's
Stinger 1974
See http://www.surfresearch.com.au/00000043.html
- it was also used on kneeboards in the late 1970's
- also has been used in other craft, eg speed boats, sailboards
1. does it work?
In most cases, preformance does not seem to be greatly improved by
this feature.
Many designers have used it, but none have maintained it as a standard
feature.
Shaping (and glassing!) such design features can be difficult.
Personal experience : rode a 6ft 8'' Stepped bottom Stinger in 1976.
I could not detect/feel the stepped bottom, but this was not overall
a good board.
Geoff
Surfchow@aol.com wrote:
hi geoff
very interested in john kelly since reading his book a
few years ago so was
delighted to come across a restoration of a boared based on
his design on your
site. My question ;does it work?Has any one ridden the restoration
or does
any one have any experience of the original concept.Would it
be possible to make
a modern version of the original?
Your thoughts,
Danny {uk}
Judy,
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1. I do not have an original article.
2. Copies of the original article are rare and highly sought by surf
collectors.
3. The web page copy was sent to me by an contributor, scanned at at
size so that
dimensions could not be read.
4. I believe the article also has some instruction text and photographs.
5. I think these may be available in a current (2002-3?) book about
Tom Blake, unfortunately I have not
seen/don't have a copy of this.
6. I am still searching for orignal copy for my resources.
If you have no luck elsewhere send this again sometime latter
in 2004.
Geoff.
Judy Malloy wrote:
I and looking for the article you have on your website of1940
Tom Blake Hollow Paddle Board that appeared in the Popular
Mechanics July 1937 Bolume 68 Number 1 pages 114-117.
The print is small and I cannot make it out and I was wondering if you
could possibly email me the article. If you can I would
greatly appreciate your efforts. Thank you very much. Judy
Malloytmalloy@centurytel.net
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Thank you for your positive comments.
1. Entry for Sunova Surfboards added to Manufacturers Index.
Online at next major upload, February 2004.
2. Possibly of interest...
Cordingley 6ft 8'' single fin shaped by Greg Laurenson (appox 1976).
- Would you have a decal image ?
- Could you check spelling of "Laurenson" ?
I have Greg Lorenson.
You are probaly correct.
Henri 6'0 twinfin
This is probably a MR circa 1978 model, but very slight chance it dates
from 1970-1.
Compare and contrast from The Catalogue...
1970 Walsh Twin Fin, 1970 Hansen Twin Fin and 1971 Pat Morgan Twin
Fin
with
1978 MR Twin Fin and 1979 MR Twin Fin.
Geoff.
Brook and Fenella wrote:
Hi Geoff. Awesomes site. I have been trolling though it
for the last 30 mins. I noticed an omission to the manufacturers
catalog.
Have you heard of Sunova Surfboards, Mandurah WA. Owner/Shaper
Bert Berger. His main focus are balsa covered foam
boards, (Mals and shortboards). The balsa laminate is
vacuumed onto a shaped polysterene blank and set with epoxy resin.
Can
email pics if you are interested.I also have a motley collection
of other boards but I will spend some more time checking your
existing cataloge to see if I have anything unusual.Possibly
of interset: 6'0 Henri twinfin, old battered 8'3 Hot Buttered miniMal?
shaped by Mark Rabbige, 6'8 Cordingley single fin shaped by
Greg Laurenson (appox 1976). Regards,Brook Ekers
Jeff,
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I think your enquiry was forwarded to me from Goodtime Surfboards, Qld.
From the surfresearch - Manufacturers Index...
RON Surfboards
702 Canterbury Road Belmore NSW
Phone : 75 1989
1962 - 1965: (see Crane Industries)
Geoff McCoy finish coating, progressing to shaping (1962?).
William Morton finish coating
These two would form M and M Surfboards in 1967.
Geoff McCoy would start McCoy Surfboards, 1970.
Thanks to Geoff McCoy
1. A company with a large out put, included export sales to the USA.
2. Not usually considered valuable by Australian collectors ...
- stock designs available in department and sports stores, not from
a custom shop.
- most collectors have an example due to their large output.
Mine is a very used example and is not catalogued online.
2. Production from circa 1962, ceased circa 1965.
3. The use of the red, plastic Hatchett fin glassed on
is unusual and probably denotes later/last of the line.
4. Note Hatchet fin (Dewey Weber design, circa 1965) may
not be original which would invalidate 3. above
- carefully check for any evidence of fin replacement.
6. 9ft 6 '' and 3/4" wooden stringer are common/standard for this manufacturer.
7. serial number 1627 - unfortunately these numbers are usually not
helpful.
8. Despite 2. above, I have had many enquires about these boards and
I am currenty preparing an entry
for an excellent original condition local example.
This will be online sometime mid 2004.
Jeff Modlin wrote:
Hello:
I am trying to get information regarding an old Australian surfboard
that I
am interested in restoring;
Any information (specifically age) would really be appreciated.
Thanks.
jeffmodlin@hotmail.com
>From: "Jeff Modlin" <jeffmodlin@hotmail.com>
>To: bc@austrlianlongboarder.com
>CC: jeffmodlin@hotmail.com
>Subject: Old Longboard !!!
>Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 16:46:58 -0800
>
>
>I am hoping someone can help me. My friend gave me an old Australian
>Longboard and I am
>trying to identify how old it is.
>
>It is 9'6" Long
>It was made by RON Surfboards
>It has a red, plastic Hatchett fin glassed on
>It has a 3/4" wooden stringer
>It has the serial number 1627
>
>Can anyone give me some info on this board? I want to restore
it and surf
>it here
>in San Diego. Thanks for any help. You can contact me at;
>
>jeffmodlin@hotmail.com
alain,
bonjour
Sorry, this seems beyond my scope.
Last I heard of Peter Troy was in Noosa, Oueensland.
I thought there was a feature on Peter in an Australian magazine in
the last couple of years but cannot find a
copy.
Can only suggest your try
Surfinfo: Surfing Australia Industry Database- a comprehensive commerical
site by Bruce Channon with
extensive links news updates and some retrospective articles.
Unfortunately MIKE HICKEY and JIMMY DICKER are unknown to me.
Several resources - all post 1965, which no doubt you already are aware
of,....
1. Any movies by Rodney Sumpter
2. Paul Witzig : Hot Generation
Part 3: France- Rodney Stumper/Union Jack board
Note red board with clear Greenough Spoon type concave nose (Paul Witzig's?)
that appears several times in
transit in Part 3.
3. Paul Witzig : Evolution
Part 4 France : xxx?/ Hendaye/Guethary/Hossegor (double exposure)
Wayne Lynch #3 : Blue with wide white pinlines, clear deck with
large/small decals
Wayne Lynch #4 : white with red deck panels
Nat Young #2 Yellow Weber Ski/Tracker, 8 ft
Nat Young #3 clear with three glueline Round tail 7 ft : 'The Young
Weber' -painted*
Ted Spencer #3 clear/three glueline Round tail 7 ft *
*Three clear/three stringer boards made at Michael Barrland Surfboards,
France.
Part 5 Morrocco/Portugal
Wayne Lynch #5 clear three glueline Round tail 7 ft *
Nat Young #3
Ted Spencer #3
Part 6 France : La Barre
Wayne Lynch #6 ? Double ender , white with red deck ? could be
#4
Nat Young #3
Ted Spencer #3
4. Young, Nat : Nat’s Nat and that’s that – an autobiography
Nymboiba Press, 8 Bay Street, Angourie, NSW 2462, Australia 1998
Details European surfing adventures, various chapters.
Good luck,
Geoff.
"alain.gardinier" wrote:
Geoff,
bonjour !
I'm lucky I came visiting your site looking abgout some surf
info.
I'm a surf filmaker and writer writing a book (my 4th) , this
time on
history of french surfing.
Some aussie surfers came over in 62-63-64 and had great impact
on the
history.
i'm trying to contact us for some info, souvenirs or photos.
Then, I
wan to send them the book (out late march)
can you help me out on it ?
One of them is PETER TROY , winner of the First 'La Barre
International' . I know he's still a big name in oz .
MIKE HICKEY and JIMMY DICKER
Thanks.
Happy new year
Alain Gardinier
Zuma Productions (www.zumaprod.com)
Max,
Glad the plans arrived, hoped they survived the flood.
Many thanks for your kind offer,
Geoff.
Postal address..
Geoff Cater
PO Box 37
Shoalhaven Heads NSW 2535
Maxwell Pendergast wrote:
> Hi Geoff
> Thank you ,yes you
did send the details of the Tom Blake paddle
> board, which were much appreciated.(I havn't had time to build it
yet!)
> I was also going
to reply, but lost your address when we had a
> minor flood after a storm last May which flooded my office and I
lost a
> few files which were stored down low.
> As you seem to be
interested in the subject I will send you a
> copy of The Surf Life Saving Association Of Australia Gear and
> Equipment Hand Book No.2 which was printed in 1971 if it would be
of
> any intrest to you, if so would you like to email me your address...
>
yours sincerly
>
Max Pendergast.
Rob,
Thank you for your positive comments.
re: Pa and Ma Bendall
1. Some details and image to surfresearch - history - surfers' biographies.
Copy below (internal links to Rabbit's book won't work).
2. Some details added to surfresearch - history - contests.
3. Castaway link added to surfresearch - references - web links
To be online at next major upload, Feb 2004.
All with thanks.
Geoff
Pa (and Ma) Bendall
Well known late-starter surfing couple, they toured the coast 1965
- 1973.
Pa surfed Hawaii 1967-1968.
Their enthusiasm and Pa's black -eye patch were lengendary
(see Rabbit Batholomew, pages 45 - 46)
Pa Bendall died circa 1972-3.
Pa Bendall Memorial Contest early 1973, Caloundra, Queensland. Won
by Richard Harvey.
(see Rabbit Batholomew, pages 88 - 89)
Pa Bendall Memorial Contest early 1975, Caloundra, Queensland. Won
by MP?
Noted for the extreme behaviour of Keith Paull.
(see Rabbit Batholomew, pages 126 - 127)
Rob, January 2004, emailed a postcard (caption details edited above,
image left) noted..In a surf chat forum
recently I asked if anyone knew what happened to Pa Bendall.
I remember seeing him in Newcastle in the 70's at the Mattara Surf
Contest, forerunner to the Mark Richards
Pro held here each year.
The image stuck in my mind throughout the years with his eye patch
& Commer Van with board racks down
the driverside of the van.A bit of a legend at the time I couldn't
find anything on the net about him, except a
mention of the annual contest held in his honour at surfing Australia
http://www.surfingaustralia.com/events.asp?eid=12449
Thanks to Rob.
rob & carol wrote:
Hi Geoff, In a surf chat forum recently I asked if anyone knew
what happened to Pa Bendall. I remember
seeing him in Newcastle in the 70's at the Mattara Surf Contest,
forerunner to the Mark Richards Pro held
here each year. The image stuck in my mind throughout the years
with his eye patch & Commer Van with
board racks down the driverside of the van. A bit of a legend
at the time I couldn't find anything on the net
about him, except a mention of the annual contest held in his
honour at surfing Australia
http://www.surfingaustralia.com/events.asp?eid=12449 I know
your site is in a state of continual building.
Hope you can use the attached articleI have attached that a
mate has sent me about Pa. Another great
website devoted to surfing & its lifestyle is Ron &
Sibylle Taylors 'Castaway' found at
http://users.chariot.net.au/%7ergtsm/ Keep up the great
work on the site. It is truly inspirational.
Rob
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Sorry, I do not give valuations.
Like all collectables, it depends on condition, scarcity, collector
demand and location
(for example, I am in Australia and specialise in Australian surfboards).
However, this US board was designed by an Australian surfer, and I
have some information....
Please note : Dimensions and images are a great help.
re : Bing Surfboards - The Foil
Designed by Keith Paull, circa 1968 - 1970
Usually 7 to 8 ft, pin nose, round tail.
Commonly Waveset fin box and moulded plastic fin.
Commonly Australia theme logo.- see Attachment 2.
1. Keith Paull, from Coolangatta, was a top Australian surfer 1965 to
1973.
see Paul Witzig Hot Generation.
2. Australian Champion 1968, beating both Farrelly and Nat.
3. Australian competitor at Puerto Rico World Contest, 1968.
see Paul Witzig Evolution.
4. Australian shapes for Hohnesee Surfboards (Queensland) and Peter
Clarke Surfboards in the 1960's.
5. Own labels...
Keith Paull Surfboards, Kirra Qld circa 1970 -1972.
Harmony Surfboards , Kirra Qld circa 1972 -1976.
Sponsored surfers included Rabbit Batholomew and Guy Omerod.
6. The Foil design for Bing Surfboards USA, second generation short
board following Vee bottoms, 1967-8.
Heavily promoted in the US, like many Australian designs in this period...
Midget Farrelly Stringerless and World Contest Model, by G&S Surfboards
USA
Nat Young's Ski, by Weber Surfboards USA
Bob McTavish's Tracker, by Morey-Pope Surfboards USA
7. Keith Paull (and Foil) starred in Greg MacGillivray, and Greg Freeman's
Waves Of Change 1969
Unfortunately not available on video/DVD.
8. Major Hawaiian performance, huge Makaha 1969.
9. Randy Rarrick credits Keith Paull as the first surfer to ride Supertubes,
South Afria.
10. Keith suffered a major breakdown and ceased all surf activity circa
1975.
Reference : Chris Bystrom :' The Sleeper ' (A Retospective) : Pacfic Longboarder Vol 2 #1 pages 32-45
I hope this has been of some assistance.
Geoff.
Postscript :
In digging out all the relevant (and irrelevant) references,
I did come across an old (13 Jan 2000) print-out from
ebay for an excellent example of a Bing Foil that sold for US$545.00.
"Dingwall, Matt" wrote:
I have a BIng "the Foil" board and want to get info on how old
it may be and
what it might be worth. Any info. you might have would be helpful.
Thanks!
Matt S. Dingwall
Recreation Coordinator
City of Newport Beach
(949) 644-3152
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Sorry, my area is Australian boards and I have no knowledge of Royal
Hawaiian boards.
Suggest you try...
http://www.swaylocks.com/
or
http://www.surfingheritage.com/
or
http://www.surfNhula.com/
Please note :
Dimensions, features (fin, decor, etc) and images are a great help
in determining board history.
Good luck,
Geoff.
DKpics@aol.com wrote:
> Hi!
> Back in 1970, I bought a Ten foot Royal Hawaiian, registered surf
board, from a guy I knew in Kansas City. I was on my way to school in Santa
Barbara.Do you have any info on "Royal Hawaiian" boards?
> Thanks,
> Dick Kaplan: DKpics@aol.com
Coffey,
Many books have sections devoted to surf instruction, one of the better
and easily
accessed is
Young, Nat : Surfing Fundamentals
Palm Beach Press, 40 Ocean Road, Palm Beach NSW 2108
First published 1985, but several later editions and curently available.
Includes section on board repair.
I like..
Conway, John : Adventure Sports : Surfing
Salamander Books Ltd., 129 – 137 York Way, London
N7 9LG, United Kingdom.
1988
A well-produced instructional manual from English author/photographer
with
excellent illustrations (Simon Evans).
Now old, available second hand online at abebooks.com
Later publications include..
McLaren, James : Learn to Surf
Lyons and Burford, 31 West 21 Street. New York, NY 10010. 1997
Werner, Doug : Surfer's Start-Up : A Beginner's Guide to Surfing
- Second
Edition
Start Up Sports/Tracks Publishing
140 Brightwood Avenue, Chula Vista, California, CA 91910. 1999
Moriarty, Jay and Gallagher, Chris : The Ultimate Guide to Surfing
Yhe Lyons Press, 123 West Street New york, New York 10011 2001
A basic surfing how-to book with no outstanding features - the
inclusion of
"Ultimate" in the title a definite exaggeration.
Strongly suggest you check your local libraries for sufing books.
The library catalogue may be available online.
Geoff.
Coffey Halloran wrote:
Hi,I was looking for a good book(s) on both learning to
surf and also surfboard repairs/maintenance. Preferably something
fairly
current - not written in 1970! Have had a look in several
bookshops - most books seem to be on history of surfing or just action
pictorials. Do you have any suggestions on books or best
place to look/get them ?
RegardsJames Coffey
David,
Apology : Due to work, technical and personal difficulties'
surfresearch's email sevice has been inoperative for 2003.
Currently clearing backlog (+150), Replies based on merit, ease
or whim.
Many apologies...
I have had busy year and have been struggling getting information prepared
for the page.
Unfortunately I have been struggling maintaining email correspondence
- most enquies take me away from
areas that I'm really interested in.
Gave up on email replies for 2003, but have been clearing them, about
5 a day for the last three weeks.
Further apologies - can not find your list of retorations.
They are not in this computer - possibly on discs saved from previous
crashed hard drive.
If you have a current copy, can you forward it.
I'm sure there were several items of interest.
I have had a couple of comments about the King step tail and
I am very happy with the entry.
Attached is the latest, do you have any comments to add?
Many thanks,
Geoff
Surfchow@aol.com wrote:
hi geoff
very interested in john kelly since reading his book a
few years ago so was delighted to come across a
restoration of a boared based on his design on your site.
My question ;does it work?
Has any one ridden the restoration or does any one have any experience
of the original concept.
Would it be possible to make a modern version of the original?
Your thoughts,
Danny {uk}
Reply
Danny,
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1. Has any one ridden the restoration
- unlikely, with major restoration the board probably weighs
a ton, and also now very
valuable.
2. does any one have any experience of the original concept
- undoubtely, see Kelly.
See below.
3. Would it be possible to make a modern version of the original?
- the step bottom has been used in later designs, notably Ben Apia's
Stinger 1974
See http://www.surfresearch.com.au/00000043.html
- it was also used on kneeboards in the late 1970's
- also has been used in other craft, eg speed boats, sailboards
4. does it work?
In most cases, performance does not seem to be greatly improved by
this feature.
Many designers have used it, but none have maintained it as a standard
feature.
Shaping (and glassing!) such design features can be difficult.
Personal experience : rode a 6ft 8'' Stepped bottom Stinger in 1976.
I could not detect/feel the stepped bottom, but this was not overall
a good board.
Geoff
jarmanplatt wrote:
Geoff. How are you.Was wondering if you have had a chance to
look at the list of restorations I sent you. There are a few more to
add. Let me know if you are interested.
David.
James,
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or
whim.
Thank you for your compliment.
1. I do not have an original article.
2. Copies of the original article are rare and highly sought by surf
collectors.
3. The web page copy was sent to me by an contributor, scanned at at
size
so that
dimensions could not be read.
4. I believe the article also has some instruction text and photographs.
5. I think these may be available in a current (2002-3?) book about
Tom
Blake, unfortunately I have not
seen/don't have a copy of this.
6. I am still searching for orignal copy for my resources.
If and when I access full copies, the current page will be updated
with
larger images and any further information.
If you have no luck elsewhere send this again sometime latter
in 2004.
Geoff.
ritha wrote:
> first of all, you have a great site...
>
> i found it because i am looking for the plans to build tom blake's
> hollow chambered board. i live in huntington beach california,
am an
> avid surfer, and want to build one to ride. i have a passion
to ride
> and feel what they did... to first build your own then take it out
and
> ride it.
>
> do you have the whole article from popular mechanics? could
i get a
> copy of it? or could you direct me to somewhere that i can get a
copy?
>
> thanks,
> james
Subject:
Re: tom blake's board
Date:
Wed, 14 Jan 2004 19:00:11 +1100
From:
geoff <realbeds@shoalhaven.net.au>
To:
ritha <ritha@socal.rr.com>
References:
1
James,
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Currently clearing backlog (+150), Replies based on merit, ease
or
whim.
Thank you for your compliment.
1. I do not have an original article.
2. Copies of the original article are rare and highly sought by surf
collectors.
3. The web page copy was sent to me by an contributor, scanned at at
size
so that
dimensions could not be read.
4. I believe the article also has some instruction text and photographs.
5. I think these may be available in a current (2002-3?) book about
Tom
Blake, unfortunately I have not
seen/don't have a copy of this.
6. I am still searching for orignal copy for my resources.
If and when I access full copies, the current page will be updated
with
larger images and any further information.
If you have no luck elsewhere send this again sometime latter
in 2004.
Geoff.
ritha wrote:
> first of all, you have a great site...
>
> i found it because i am looking for the plans to build tom blake's
> hollow chambered board. i live in huntington beach california,
am an
> avid surfer, and want to build one to ride. i have a passion
to ride
> and feel what they did... to first build your own then take it out
and
> ride it.
>
> do you have the whole article from popular mechanics? could
i get a
> copy of it? or could you direct me to somewhere that i can get a
copy?
>
> thanks,
> james
Dustin,
Quickly
- great to hear from you.
Before any new boards, I have ugraded the image format (much larger)
for all the entries accept yours.
Unfortunately do not have originals that you sent me , and these were
resized down - and won't re-size back.
#00000162 Bennett Round nose -round tail. 6ft 10''
#00000163 Pat Morgan Swallow tail 6ft 9'' Kym Thompson
#00000165 Mark Richards Twin Fin 2 6 ft ? K.P.
These are denoted in the catalogue with light text, not with emphasis.
Geoff
Back soon.
Geoff Scott wrote:
Hi Geoff, I am not sure if you remember me but I submitted some
boards on the site a few years ago. I finally have a digital
camera and am in a position to submit a few more interesting
pieces. I am having trouble downloading the page template, it
comes onto my computer as a mass of HTML files that are simply
images that make up the total page. Are you able to email me
a single file template? If so please email to dusty336@hotmail.com
CheersDustin
Phil,
Thank you for your positive comments.
Thank you for your positive contribution.
In fact, I'm stoked!
In compliling the entry I looked at every photgraph of Lopez I could
find,
in the vain hope of finding something to confirm it's provenance.
The Steve Wilkins photographs confirm...
- board shaped, owned and riden by Gerry Lopez.
- manufacturing date pre-1975.
- purchased by Terry Richardson in Hawaii, circa 1977.
I have updated the entry for BOARD HISTORY...
Phil Abbott wrote, January 2004...
the Gerry Lopez Lightning Bolt (#181) that you have listed on
your site looks exactly like the one in the
attached 1975 photos of Gerry's board quiver by Steve Wilkings (source
unknown).
Many thanks to Phil.
Two of the attached images below, note white board in foreground with
leg rope...
I used the long shot and one of the close ups.
This will be online at next major upload, Feb-March 2004.
If you have time, a few questions...
1. Do you have source details for the photographs, ie date, volume,
number,page
I assume SURFER or SURFING magazine 1975.
2. The images have a lot of detail, would it be possible to rescan
to 300 pixels (height)
- resized (unsuitable) examples (one cropped) attached.
I would particularly like to identify any boards with leg rope/plugs.
3. Can you confirm Rory Russell in blue tee-shirt.
Many thanks,
Geoff.
Phil Abbott wrote:
Hi Geoff,
I really enjoy your website! The information contained on it is invaluable.
I couldn't help but notice that the Gerry Lopez Lightning Bolt
that you
have listed on your site looks exactly like the one in the attached
1975
photos of Gerry's board quiver by Steve Wilkings.
Take care,
Phil
azza,
Thanks for the email...
Manufacturer's listing is always hard to pin down a starting date -
most entries are taken from magazine articles
or ads that obviously come after a manufacturer's first boards were
made.
Please note that these pages try to focus on the earliest builders
(up to 1970's) because there are few
resources and quickly disappearing memories.
There is a mass (overload?) of resouces for 1990's manufacturers.
I have updated the BJ entry to read...
B.J. Surfboards
1974
1976 Botany NSW
Bob Hanson, Richard Evans;
1977 Kevin McKell and Rob McLaggan;
1979 Richard Evans;
azza wrote, January 2004 (edited)... B.J surfboards they actually started
in 1974, ... my dad still has his board
in our garage that he got made in 1974.Thanks to azza.
Can you confirm...
1. Dad's board purchased from Botany address.
I think this factory was used by another surfboard maker at some time.
2. A decal scan would be great (oversized - I can always resize down
to fit, but not up).
3. Does the board have a shaper decal or markings, or can Dad recall
either Bob Hanson, Richard Evans
I have updated the BJ entry to read...
Crozier Surfboards
Mona Vale NSW
1970 ?
Shapers Chris Crozier;
1972
Shapers Peter Crawford;1976
Shapers Paul Connors;
1979
Shapers Chris Crozier;
azza wrote, January 2004 (edited)...Crozier boards, they're still going
today.
My mate's uncle is Russell Crozier who still shapes occasionally.
Chris Crozier died in the late 80's i think he said (i have to check
that out again).
Various people are shaping for them at the moment.Thanks to azza.
Can you confirm...
1. Chris's date of demise.
2. Did Russell shape/glass/sand boards in the 1970's?
These entries online at next major upload, Feb-March 2004.
Thanks,
Geoff
AzzA wrote:
hey dude, hows it going?i'm just writing in relation to your
surfing webpage, the shapers index pages...They look pretty good,
you've got heaps of info on there..I just thought i'd let you
know a little more about some board shapers. First of all, with B.J
surfboards they actually started in 1974, the only reason i
know this is because my dad still has his board in our garage that he
got made in 1974, i'll take a photo of the logo on the bottom
of the board for your archives aswell.Secondly with Crozier boards,
they're still going today. My mates uncle is russel crozier
who still shapes now occasionally. Chris Crozier died in the late 80's
i
think he said (i have to check that out again). Various people
are shaping for them at the moment, they make real good boards.
I'm getting one made up for my old man right now..just htought
i'd let you know a little of what i know,
cheers!azza
maddock,
Yes, slipped up here.
Johhny Rhodes and Tony Nichols Surfboards decal is/was online at Catalogue
#200 - supplementary
images, awaitng filing but was missed.
Also muli stringer model circa 1966 online at Appendix, Design and
Decor - Stringers.
Both of these images and text below added to Manufacturers Index J
Johhny Rhodes and Tony Nichols Surfboards
1962 ?
Cronulla Surf Shop
77 Street Cronulla, Sydney
maddock wrote, January 2004 (edited)...
John Rhodes, a local Cronulla surfboard maker.
He shaped my first new board in 1962.
Thanks to maddock.
Image below...
Detailed stringers by John Rhodes/Tony Nicholas Sufboards,
circa 1966
This entrie online at next major upload, Feb-March 2004.
Can you confirm...
1. your first board from above address
2. A Rhodes/Nichols decal
3. John also worked for many other shops, any ideas.
4. Know anything about Tony Nichols
Thanks for the info,
Geoff
maddock wrote:
Hi Geoff. Have just found your surfresearch website, and
its alphabetical listing. I used to live at Cronulla in
1950s-60s, and surfed at numerous breaks in the Cronulla area.
I notice that your alphabetical listing doesn't
include John Rhodes, a local Cronulla surfboard maker.
He shaped my first new board in 1962, and was on
the local surfing scene as surfer and boardmaker for several
years.
regards,
John
Tim,
Aloha
Walkabout first edtion circa November 1934.
Assuming monthly editions and counting backwards from...
WALKABOUT Magazine. Vol. 1, No. 9. July 1935.
Geoff
Peter,
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Thank you for the update on INDO SURF & LINGO.
I have added the details and image to Books/N with a credit.
Online at next major upload, early February, 2004.
Geoff.
Peter Neely wrote:
Hi Geoff,
Great website.
Just thought I'd bring you up to date on the latest edition of
my book for
your listing under N for Neely -
Neely Peter
INDO SURF & LINGO
Published by Peter Neely www.indosurf.com.au PO Box 714 Noosa
Q 4567 Australia
First edition 1992. The original Surfer's Guidebook to Bali
and all
Indonesia. Regularly updated and reprinted every few months
in Kuta Bali.
Soft cover, 144 pages, 100 colour photographs, 5 color maps,
20 pages
advertising, 2 pages Discount Vouchers (worth over $200).
* Earliest Indonesian surf guide with a large section devoted
to language
translations. Updated regularly.
Thanks,
Peter
PETER NEELY
INDO SURF & LINGO
www.indosurf.com.au
mailto:peter@indosurf.com.au
PO Box 714 Noosa Heads Qld 4567 Australia
Phone & Fax: (+ 61 7) 5447 4469
Please only call 8am to 6pm Brisbane time
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Greg,
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Nevada details, with a credit, added to Manufacturers' details
Online at next major upgrade, Feb 20004.
Thought address maybe George's River Road, Enfield ?
Also, note entry for Age Surfboards, circa 1969, Bill Cilla's first
label.
Thanks again,
Geoff.
Greg Clark wrote:
G'Day Geoff, Glad to be of assistance. One other snippet
regarding your listing of Surfboard manufacturers that you may already
know relates to Nirvana Surfboards on the Central Coast. They
were originally known as Nevada Surfboards and ran ads in Surfing
World in about 1971 featuring Billy Cilia under the Nevada name.
Presumably they changed the name to Nirvana when they
realised that a landlocked US state bore no relationship with
surfing. They kept the same typeface for their logo
though. Regards Greg Clark
----- Original Message -----
From: geoff
To: Greg Clark
Sent: Friday, November 21,
2003 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: Surf Magazines
Greg,
Thanks for for positive
comments and the information.
There is no reason why this
was missed.
Entry now reads...
Surf (Australia)
1976 -1979
Editor : Steve Core
Bi-monthly
First Edition Vol 1 No.
1 November 1976
Strong Cronulla influence,
Steve Core made surfboards
in the late 60's, photographer, surf film maker (In Natural Flow,
circa 1973), film distributor
and published a magazine.
This magazine was overlooked
until October 2003,
This omission was pointed
out by Greg Clark, via email..
Thanks Greg.
Image right ; Vol 1 No.
8 February 1978 $1.45
Cover : Rabbit Batholomew/Stradbroke
Island by MartinTullemans
This will be online at the
next major upload - Dec/Jan.
Thanks for the pointer,
Geoff
Greg Clark wrote:
Hey Guys, Came
across another Australian surfing magazine you might like to add to your
list. Surf was
published by
Steve Core in Cronulla I think. I have a copy of the third edition
but I don't know how long it lasted
after that.
It was published around 1977 or 78 as my edition has a feature on Hawaii
77. Steve Core seemed to
try everything
in surfing in that he made surfboards in the late 60's, made surf movies
and published a
magazine. Great
site
RegardsGreg Clark
Cindy,
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Rod,
Thanks for the update.
My interest in prone boards continues... Paipo* Catalogue now numbers
26 entries.
Latest additions of include a very interesting wide tailed board, as
ridden by ...
Sean Ross, Pipeline, Hawaii.
Board by Paul Lindbergh's Hawaii Paipo Designs.
Photo: Alan (Bud) McCray.
#00000193 1960 Paipo by Farfor, 3 ft 5'' Tapa cloth laminated bottom.
Geoff.
rodNDtube wrote:
Please note that I have a new email address:
new: rod2@bcpl.net
Please update your address books.
Hope all are doing well and have a great holiday.
Rod Rodgers
Dennis,
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Is difficult....
1. My area is Australian boards, this is surely USA.
Strongly suggest you post images and details at
http://www.swaylocks.com/
2. I have no details of this manufacturer and from your notes very
probably a backyard maker, which makes
tracing without local information almost impossible.
3. Images are most helpful... for example
The rails have a lip down the center - which suggests to me a novice
board maker, but the truth is it may
have been a style at the time they made this.
This may be the overlap to the deck and bottom filler coats, as you
suggest, or a design feature.
4. late 60's early 70's board.
Seems correct, given..
Length 7' 6".
Width here is critical - the wider the board (+21'') 1968 -9, narrower
(+18 '') circa 1972
double reinforced fiberglass rails. - Volan glass overlaps?, dates
before 1975.
5. Of most interest is...
It has a home-made "fin box" which is really a three sided structure
made out of resin with
holes drilled into it so that the fin would sit snuggly in the "slot".
Probably indicates before 1972-3 when standard Bahne fin box introduced
(the common longboard box still used today).
1967 to 1973 saw many variations on the removable fin, eg Waveset,
and in fin design.
6. Should I keep it in a safe place or surf it?
Try to find more about the board, make sure if you do surf it that
you don't damage the finbox or lose the fin.
Geoff
Dennis Kahn wrote:
I found what I think is a late 60's early 70's board. It has
a home-made
"fin box" which is really a three sided structure made out of
resin with
holes drilled into it so that the fin would sit snuggly in the
"slot".
It is about 7' 6" double reinforced fiberglass rails. the logo
on the hull
of the board is a seahorse with half circles drawn around it
stopping at an
empty border with the words "board by Morrow". It has in smaller
writting
that it is registered to a R. "sombody" the words are faded
and hard to
read.
It is a pintail. The rails have a lip down the center - which
suggests to me
a novice board maker, but the truth is it may have been a style
at the time
they made this. It is about 2 1/2" to 3" thick.
Does the name Morrow mean anything. Should I keep it in a safe
place or surf
it?
What do you think?
Thank you;
Dennis Kahn
Danny,
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Currently clearing backlog (+150), Replies based on merit, ease
or whim.
1. Has any one ridden the restoration
- unlikely, with major restoration the board probably weighs
a ton, and also now very valuable.
2. does any one have any experience of the original concept
- undoubtely, see Kelly.
See below.
3.Would it be possible to make a modern version of the original?
- the step bottom has been used in later designs, notably Ben Apia's
Stinger 1974
See http://www.surfresearch.com.au/00000043.html
- it was also used on kneeboards in the late 1970's
- also has been used in other craft, eg speed boats, sailboards
1. does it work?
In most cases, preformance does not seem to be greatly improved by
this feature.
Many designers have used it, but none have maintained it as a standard
feature.
Shaping (and glassing!) such design features can be difficult.
Personal experience : rode a 6ft 8'' Stepped bottom Stinger in 1976.
I could not detect/feel the stepped bottom, but this was not overall
a good board.
Geoff
Surfchow@aol.com wrote:
hi geoff
very interested in john kelly since reading his book a
few years ago so was
delighted to come across a restoration of a boared based on
his design on your
site. My question ;does it work?Has any one ridden the restoration
or does
any one have any experience of the original concept.Would it
be possible to make
a modern version of the original?
Your thoughts,
Danny {uk}
Judy,
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surfresearch's email sevice has been inoperative for 2003.
Currently clearing backlog (+150), Replies based on merit, ease
or whim.
1. I do not have an original article.
2. Copies of the original article are rare and highly sought by surf
collectors.
3. The web page copy was sent to me by an contributor, scanned at at
size so that
dimensions could not be read.
4. I believe the article also has some instruction text and photographs.
5. I think these may be available in a current (2002-3?) book about
Tom Blake, unfortunately I have not
seen/don't have a copy of this.
6. I am still searching for orignal copy for my resources.
If you have no luck elsewhere send this again sometime latter
in 2004.
Geoff.
Judy Malloy wrote:
I and looking for the article you have on your website of1940
Tom Blake Hollow Paddle Board that appeared in the Popular
Mechanics July 1937 Bolume 68 Number 1 pages 114-117.
The print is small and I cannot make it out and I was wondering if you
could possibly email me the article. If you can I would
greatly appreciate your efforts. Thank you very much. Judy
Malloytmalloy@centurytel.net
Brook and Fenella,
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Thank you for your positive comments.
1. Entry for Sunova Surfboards added to Manufacturers Index.
Online at next major upload, February 2004.
2. Possibly of interest...
Cordingley 6ft 8'' single fin shaped by Greg Laurenson (appox 1976).
- Would you have a decal image ?
- Could you check spelling of "Laurenson" ?
I have Greg Lorenson.
You are probaly correct.
Henri 6'0 twinfin
This is probably a MR circa 1978 model, but very slight chance it dates
from 1970-1.
Compare and contrast from The Catalogue...
1970 Walsh Twin Fin, 1970 Hansen Twin Fin and 1971 Pat Morgan Twin
Fin
with
1978 MR Twin Fin and 1979 MR Twin Fin.
Geoff.
Brook and Fenella wrote:
Hi Geoff. Awesomes site. I have been trolling though it
for the last 30 mins. I noticed an omission to the manufacturers
catalog.
Have you heard of Sunova Surfboards, Mandurah WA. Owner/Shaper
Bert Berger. His main focus are balsa covered foam
boards, (Mals and shortboards). The balsa laminate is
vacuumed onto a shaped polysterene blank and set with epoxy resin.
Can
email pics if you are interested.I also have a motley collection
of other boards but I will spend some more time checking your
existing cataloge to see if I have anything unusual.Possibly
of interset: 6'0 Henri twinfin, old battered 8'3 Hot Buttered miniMal?
shaped by Mark Rabbige, 6'8 Cordingley single fin shaped by
Greg Laurenson (appox 1976). Regards,Brook Ekers
Jeff,
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I think your enquiry was forwarded to me from Goodtime Surfboards, Qld.
From the surfresearch - Manufacturers Index...
RON Surfboards
702 Canterbury Road Belmore NSW
Phone : 75 1989
1962 - 1965: (see Crane Industries)
Geoff McCoy finish coating, progressing to shaping (1962?).
William Morton finish coating
These two would form M and M Surfboards in 1967.
Geoff McCoy would start McCoy Surfboards, 1970.
Thanks to Geoff McCoy
1. A company with a large out put, included export sales to the USA.
2. Not usually considered valuable by Australian collectors ...
- stock designs available in department and sports stores, not from
a custom shop.
- most collectors have an example due to their large output.
Mine is a very used example and is not catalogued online.
2. Production from circa 1962, ceased circa 1965.
3. The use of the red, plastic Hatchett fin glassed on
is unusual and probably denotes later/last of the line.
4. Note Hatchet fin (Dewey Weber design, circa 1965) may
not be original which would invalidate 3. above
- carefully check for any evidence of fin replacement.
6. 9ft 6 '' and 3/4" wooden stringer are common/standard for this manufacturer.
7. serial number 1627 - unfortunately these numbers are usually not
helpful.
8. Despite 2. above, I have had many enquires about these boards and
I am currenty preparing an entry
for an excellent original condition local example.
This will be online sometime mid 2004.
Jeff Modlin wrote:
Hello:
I am trying to get information regarding an old Australian surfboard
that I
am interested in restoring;
Any information (specifically age) would really be appreciated.
Thanks.
jeffmodlin@hotmail.com
>From: "Jeff Modlin" <jeffmodlin@hotmail.com>
>To: bc@austrlianlongboarder.com
>CC: jeffmodlin@hotmail.com
>Subject: Old Longboard !!!
>Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 16:46:58 -0800
>
>
>I am hoping someone can help me. My friend gave me an old Australian
>Longboard and I am
>trying to identify how old it is.
>
>It is 9'6" Long
>It was made by RON Surfboards
>It has a red, plastic Hatchett fin glassed on
>It has a 3/4" wooden stringer
>It has the serial number 1627
>
>Can anyone give me some info on this board? I want to restore
it and surf
>it here
>in San Diego. Thanks for any help. You can contact me at;
>
>jeffmodlin@hotmail.com
alain,
bonjour
Sorry, this seems beyond my scope.
Last I heard of Peter Troy was in Noosa, Oueensland.
I thought there was a feature on Peter in an Australian magazine in
the last couple of years but cannot find a
copy.
Can only suggest your try
Surfinfo: Surfing Australia Industry Database- a comprehensive commerical
site by Bruce Channon with
extensive links news updates and some retrospective articles.
Unfortunately MIKE HICKEY and JIMMY DICKER are unknown to me.
Several resources - all post 1965, which no doubt you already are aware
of,....
1. Any movies by Rodney Sumpter
2. Paul Witzig : Hot Generation
Part 3: France- Rodney Stumper/Union Jack board
Note red board with clear Greenough Spoon type concave nose (Paul Witzig's?)
that appears several times in
transit in Part 3.
3. Paul Witzig : Evolution
Part 4 France : xxx?/ Hendaye/Guethary/Hossegor (double exposure)
Wayne Lynch #3 : Blue with wide white pinlines, clear deck with
large/small decals
Wayne Lynch #4 : white with red deck panels
Nat Young #2 Yellow Weber Ski/Tracker, 8 ft
Nat Young #3 clear with three glueline Round tail 7 ft : 'The Young
Weber' -painted*
Ted Spencer #3 clear/three glueline Round tail 7 ft *
*Three clear/three stringer boards made at Michael Barrland Surfboards,
France.
Part 5 Morrocco/Portugal
Wayne Lynch #5 clear three glueline Round tail 7 ft *
Nat Young #3
Ted Spencer #3
Part 6 France : La Barre
Wayne Lynch #6 ? Double ender , white with red deck ? could be
#4
Nat Young #3
Ted Spencer #3
4. Young, Nat : Nat’s Nat and that’s that – an autobiography
Nymboiba Press, 8 Bay Street, Angourie, NSW 2462, Australia 1998
Details European surfing adventures, various chapters.
Good luck,
Geoff.
"alain.gardinier" wrote:
Geoff,
bonjour !
I'm lucky I came visiting your site looking abgout some surf
info.
I'm a surf filmaker and writer writing a book (my 4th) , this
time on
history of french surfing.
Some aussie surfers came over in 62-63-64 and had great impact
on the
history.
i'm trying to contact us for some info, souvenirs or photos.
Then, I
wan to send them the book (out late march)
can you help me out on it ?
One of them is PETER TROY , winner of the First 'La Barre
International' . I know he's still a big name in oz .
MIKE HICKEY and JIMMY DICKER
Thanks.
Happy new year
Alain Gardinier
Zuma Productions (www.zumaprod.com)
Max,
Glad the plans arrived, hoped they survived the flood.
Many thanks for your kind offer,
Geoff.
Postal address..
Geoff Cater
PO Box 37
Shoalhaven Heads NSW 2535
Maxwell Pendergast wrote:
> Hi Geoff
> Thank you ,yes you
did send the details of the Tom Blake paddle
> board, which were much appreciated.(I havn't had time to build it
yet!)
> I was also going
to reply, but lost your address when we had a
> minor flood after a storm last May which flooded my office and I
lost a
> few files which were stored down low.
> As you seem to be
interested in the subject I will send you a
> copy of The Surf Life Saving Association Of Australia Gear and
> Equipment Hand Book No.2 which was printed in 1971 if it would be
of
> any intrest to you, if so would you like to email me your address...
>
yours sincerly
>
Max Pendergast.
Rob,
Thank you for your positive comments.
re: Pa and Ma Bendall
1. Some details and image to surfresearch - history - surfers' biographies.
Copy below (internal links to Rabbit's book won't work).
2. Some details added to surfresearch - history - contests.
3. Castaway link added to surfresearch - references - web links
To be online at next major upload, Feb 2004.
All with thanks.
Geoff
Pa (and Ma) Bendall
Well known late-starter surfing couple, they toured the coast 1965
- 1973.
Pa surfed Hawaii 1967-1968.
Their enthusiasm and Pa's black -eye patch were lengendary
(see Rabbit Batholomew, pages 45 - 46)
Pa Bendall died circa 1972-3.
Pa Bendall Memorial Contest early 1973, Caloundra, Queensland. Won
by Richard Harvey.
(see Rabbit Batholomew, pages 88 - 89)
Pa Bendall Memorial Contest early 1975, Caloundra, Queensland. Won
by MP?
Noted for the extreme behaviour of Keith Paull.
(see Rabbit Batholomew, pages 126 - 127)
Rob, January 2004, emailed a postcard (caption details edited above,
image left) noted..In a surf chat forum
recently I asked if anyone knew what happened to Pa Bendall.
I remember seeing him in Newcastle in the 70's at the Mattara Surf
Contest, forerunner to the Mark Richards
Pro held here each year.
The image stuck in my mind throughout the years with his eye patch
& Commer Van with board racks down
the driverside of the van.A bit of a legend at the time I couldn't
find anything on the net about him, except a
mention of the annual contest held in his honour at surfing Australia
http://www.surfingaustralia.com/events.asp?eid=12449
Thanks to Rob.
rob & carol wrote:
Hi Geoff, In a surf chat forum recently I asked if anyone knew
what happened to Pa Bendall. I remember
seeing him in Newcastle in the 70's at the Mattara Surf Contest,
forerunner to the Mark Richards Pro held
here each year. The image stuck in my mind throughout the years
with his eye patch & Commer Van with
board racks down the driverside of the van. A bit of a legend
at the time I couldn't find anything on the net
about him, except a mention of the annual contest held in his
honour at surfing Australia
http://www.surfingaustralia.com/events.asp?eid=12449 I know
your site is in a state of continual building.
Hope you can use the attached articleI have attached that a
mate has sent me about Pa. Another great
website devoted to surfing & its lifestyle is Ron &
Sibylle Taylors 'Castaway' found at
http://users.chariot.net.au/%7ergtsm/ Keep up the great
work on the site. It is truly inspirational.
Rob
Matt,
Apology : Due to work, technical and personal difficulties'
surfresearch's email sevice has been inoperative for 2003.
Currently clearing backlog (+150), Replies based on merit, ease
or whim.
Sorry, I do not give valuations.
Like all collectables, it depends on condition, scarcity, collector
demand and location
(for example, I am in Australia and specialise in Australian surfboards).
However, this US board was designed by an Australian surfer, and I
have some information....
Please note : Dimensions and images are a great help.
re : Bing Surfboards - The Foil
Designed by Keith Paull, circa 1968 - 1970
Usually 7 to 8 ft, pin nose, round tail.
Commonly Waveset fin box and moulded plastic fin.
Commonly Australia theme logo.- see Attachment 2.
1. Keith Paull, from Coolangatta, was a top Australian surfer 1965 to
1973.
see Paul Witzig Hot Generation.
2. Australian Champion 1968, beating both Farrelly and Nat.
3. Australian competitor at Puerto Rico World Contest, 1968.
see Paul Witzig Evolution.
4. Australian shapes for Hohnesee Surfboards (Queensland) and Peter
Clarke Surfboards in the 1960's.
5. Own labels...
Keith Paull Surfboards, Kirra Qld circa 1970 -1972.
Harmony Surfboards , Kirra Qld circa 1972 -1976.
Sponsored surfers included Rabbit Batholomew and Guy Omerod.
6. The Foil design for Bing Surfboards USA, second generation short
board following Vee bottoms, 1967-8.
Heavily promoted in the US, like many Australian designs in this period...
Midget Farrelly Stringerless and World Contest Model, by G&S Surfboards
USA
Nat Young's Ski, by Weber Surfboards USA
Bob McTavish's Tracker, by Morey-Pope Surfboards USA
7. Keith Paull (and Foil) starred in Greg MacGillivray, and Greg Freeman's
Waves Of Change 1969
Unfortunately not available on video/DVD.
8. Major Hawaiian performance, huge Makaha 1969.
9. Randy Rarrick credits Keith Paull as the first surfer to ride Supertubes,
South Afria.
10. Keith suffered a major breakdown and ceased all surf activity circa
1975.
Reference : Chris Bystrom :' The Sleeper ' (A Retospective) : Pacfic Longboarder Vol 2 #1 pages 32-45
I hope this has been of some assistance.
Geoff.
Postscript :
In digging out all the relevant (and irrelevant) references,
I did come across an old (13 Jan 2000) print-out from
ebay for an excellent example of a Bing Foil that sold for US$545.00.
"Dingwall, Matt" wrote:
I have a BIng "the Foil" board and want to get info on how old
it may be and
what it might be worth. Any info. you might have would be helpful.
Thanks!
Matt S. Dingwall
Recreation Coordinator
City of Newport Beach
(949) 644-3152
Matt,
Apology : Due to work, technical and personal difficulties'
surfresearch's email sevice has been inoperative for 2003.
Currently clearing backlog (+150), Replies based on merit, ease
or whim.
Sorry, my area is Australian boards and I have no knowledge of Royal
Hawaiian boards.
Suggest you try...
http://www.swaylocks.com/
or
http://www.surfingheritage.com/
or
http://www.surfNhula.com/
Please note :
Dimensions, features (fin, decor, etc) and images are a great help
in determining board history.
Good luck,
Geoff.
DKpics@aol.com wrote:
> Hi!
> Back in 1970, I bought a Ten foot Royal Hawaiian, registered surf
board, from a guy I knew in Kansas City. I was on my way to school in Santa
Barbara.Do you have any info on "Royal Hawaiian" boards?
> Thanks,
> Dick Kaplan: DKpics@aol.com
Coffey,
Many books have sections devoted to surf instruction, one of the better
and easily
accessed is
Young, Nat : Surfing Fundamentals
Palm Beach Press, 40 Ocean Road, Palm Beach NSW 2108
First published 1985, but several later editions and curently available.
Includes section on board repair.
I like..
Conway, John : Adventure Sports : Surfing
Salamander Books Ltd., 129 – 137 York Way, London
N7 9LG, United Kingdom.
1988
A well-produced instructional manual from English author/photographer
with
excellent illustrations (Simon Evans).
Now old, available second hand online at abebooks.com
Later publications include..
McLaren, James : Learn to Surf
Lyons and Burford, 31 West 21 Street. New York, NY 10010. 1997
Werner, Doug : Surfer's Start-Up : A Beginner's Guide to Surfing
- Second
Edition
Start Up Sports/Tracks Publishing
140 Brightwood Avenue, Chula Vista, California, CA 91910. 1999
Moriarty, Jay and Gallagher, Chris : The Ultimate Guide to Surfing
Yhe Lyons Press, 123 West Street New york, New York 10011 2001
A basic surfing how-to book with no outstanding features - the
inclusion of
"Ultimate" in the title a definite exaggeration.
Strongly suggest you check your local libraries for sufing books.
The library catalogue may be available online.
Geoff.
Coffey Halloran wrote:
Hi,I was looking for a good book(s) on both learning to
surf and also surfboard repairs/maintenance. Preferably something
fairly
current - not written in 1970! Have had a look in several
bookshops - most books seem to be on history of surfing or just action
pictorials. Do you have any suggestions on books or best
place to look/get them ?
RegardsJames Coffey
David,
Apology : Due to work, technical and personal difficulties'
surfresearch's email sevice has been inoperative for 2003.
Currently clearing backlog (+150), Replies based on merit, ease
or whim.
Many apologies...
I have had busy year and have been struggling getting information prepared
for the page.
Unfortunately I have been struggling maintaining email correspondence
- most enquies take me away from
areas that I'm really interested in.
Gave up on email replies for 2003, but have been clearing them, about
5 a day for the last three weeks.
Further apologies - can not find your list of retorations.
They are not in this computer - possibly on discs saved from previous
crashed hard drive.
If you have a current copy, can you forward it.
I'm sure there were several items of interest.
I have had a couple of comments about the King step tail and
I am very happy with the entry.
Attached is the latest, do you have any comments to add?
Many thanks,
Geoff
Surfchow@aol.com wrote:
hi geoff
very interested in john kelly since reading his book a
few years ago so was delighted to come across a
restoration of a boared based on his design on your site.
My question ;does it work?
Has any one ridden the restoration or does any one have any experience
of the original concept.
Would it be possible to make a modern version of the original?
Your thoughts,
Danny {uk}
Reply
Danny,
Apology : Due to work, technical and personal difficulties'
surfresearch's email sevice has been inoperative for 2003.
Currently clearing backlog (+150), Replies based on merit, ease
or whim.
1. Has any one ridden the restoration
- unlikely, with major restoration the board probably weighs
a ton, and also now very
valuable.
2. does any one have any experience of the original concept
- undoubtely, see Kelly.
See below.
3. Would it be possible to make a modern version of the original?
- the step bottom has been used in later designs, notably Ben Apia's
Stinger 1974
See http://www.surfresearch.com.au/00000043.html
- it was also used on kneeboards in the late 1970's
- also has been used in other craft, eg speed boats, sailboards
4. does it work?
In most cases, performance does not seem to be greatly improved by
this feature.
Many designers have used it, but none have maintained it as a standard
feature.
Shaping (and glassing!) such design features can be difficult.
Personal experience : rode a 6ft 8'' Stepped bottom Stinger in 1976.
I could not detect/feel the stepped bottom, but this was not overall
a good board.
Geoff
jarmanplatt wrote:
Geoff. How are you.Was wondering if you have had a chance to
look at the list of restorations I sent you. There are a few more to
add. Let me know if you are interested.
David.
James,
Apology : Due to work, technical and personal difficulties'
surfresearch's email sevice has been inoperative for 2003.
Currently clearing backlog (+150), Replies based on merit, ease
or
whim.
Thank you for your compliment.
1. I do not have an original article.
2. Copies of the original article are rare and highly sought by surf
collectors.
3. The web page copy was sent to me by an contributor, scanned at at
size
so that
dimensions could not be read.
4. I believe the article also has some instruction text and photographs.
5. I think these may be available in a current (2002-3?) book about
Tom
Blake, unfortunately I have not
seen/don't have a copy of this.
6. I am still searching for orignal copy for my resources.
If and when I access full copies, the current page will be updated
with
larger images and any further information.
If you have no luck elsewhere send this again sometime latter
in 2004.
Geoff.
ritha wrote:
> first of all, you have a great site...
>
> i found it because i am looking for the plans to build tom blake's
> hollow chambered board. i live in huntington beach california,
am an
> avid surfer, and want to build one to ride. i have a passion
to ride
> and feel what they did... to first build your own then take it out
and
> ride it.
>
> do you have the whole article from popular mechanics? could
i get a
> copy of it? or could you direct me to somewhere that i can get a
copy?
>
> thanks,
> james
Subject:
Re: tom blake's board
Date:
Wed, 14 Jan 2004 19:00:11 +1100
From:
geoff <realbeds@shoalhaven.net.au>
To:
ritha <ritha@socal.rr.com>
References:
1
James,
Apology : Due to work, technical and personal difficulties'
surfresearch's email sevice has been inoperative for 2003.
Currently clearing backlog (+150), Replies based on merit, ease
or
whim.
Thank you for your compliment.
1. I do not have an original article.
2. Copies of the original article are rare and highly sought by surf
collectors.
3. The web page copy was sent to me by an contributor, scanned at at
size
so that
dimensions could not be read.
4. I believe the article also has some instruction text and photographs.
5. I think these may be available in a current (2002-3?) book about
Tom
Blake, unfortunately I have not
seen/don't have a copy of this.
6. I am still searching for orignal copy for my resources.
If and when I access full copies, the current page will be updated
with
larger images and any further information.
If you have no luck elsewhere send this again sometime latter
in 2004.
Geoff.
ritha wrote:
> first of all, you have a great site...
>
> i found it because i am looking for the plans to build tom blake's
> hollow chambered board. i live in huntington beach california,
am an
> avid surfer, and want to build one to ride. i have a passion
to ride
> and feel what they did... to first build your own then take it out
and
> ride it.
>
> do you have the whole article from popular mechanics? could
i get a
> copy of it? or could you direct me to somewhere that i can get a
copy?
>
> thanks,
> james
Dustin,
Quickly
- great to hear from you.
Before any new boards, I have ugraded the image format (much larger)
for all the entries accept yours.
Unfortunately do not have originals that you sent me , and these were
resized down - and won't re-size back.
#00000162 Bennett Round nose -round tail. 6ft 10''
#00000163 Pat Morgan Swallow tail 6ft 9'' Kym Thompson
#00000165 Mark Richards Twin Fin 2 6 ft ? K.P.
These are denoted in the catalogue with light text, not with emphasis.
Geoff
Back soon.
Geoff Scott wrote:
Hi Geoff, I am not sure if you remember me but I submitted some
boards on the site a few years ago. I finally have a digital
camera and am in a position to submit a few more interesting
pieces. I am having trouble downloading the page template, it
comes onto my computer as a mass of HTML files that are simply
images that make up the total page. Are you able to email me
a single file template? If so please email to dusty336@hotmail.com
CheersDustin
Phil,
Thank you for your positive comments.
Thank you for your positive contribution.
In fact, I'm stoked!
In compliling the entry I looked at every photgraph of Lopez I could
find,
in the vain hope of finding something to confirm it's provenance.
The Steve Wilkins photographs confirm...
- board shaped, owned and riden by Gerry Lopez.
- manufacturing date pre-1975.
- purchased by Terry Richardson in Hawaii, circa 1977.
I have updated the entry for BOARD HISTORY...
Phil Abbott wrote, January 2004...
the Gerry Lopez Lightning Bolt (#181) that you have listed on
your site looks exactly like the one in the
attached 1975 photos of Gerry's board quiver by Steve Wilkings (source
unknown).
Many thanks to Phil.
Two of the attached images below, note white board in foreground with
leg rope...
I used the long shot and one of the close ups.
This will be online at next major upload, Feb-March 2004.
If you have time, a few questions...
1. Do you have source details for the photographs, ie date, volume,
number,page
I assume SURFER or SURFING magazine 1975.
2. The images have a lot of detail, would it be possible to rescan
to 300 pixels (height)
- resized (unsuitable) examples (one cropped) attached.
I would particularly like to identify any boards with leg rope/plugs.
3. Can you confirm Rory Russell in blue tee-shirt.
Many thanks,
Geoff.
Phil Abbott wrote:
Hi Geoff,
I really enjoy your website! The information contained on it is invaluable.
I couldn't help but notice that the Gerry Lopez Lightning Bolt
that you
have listed on your site looks exactly like the one in the attached
1975
photos of Gerry's board quiver by Steve Wilkings.
Take care,
Phil
azza,
Thanks for the email...
Manufacturer's listing is always hard to pin down a starting date -
most entries are taken from magazine articles
or ads that obviously come after a manufacturer's first boards were
made.
Please note that these pages try to focus on the earliest builders
(up to 1970's) because there are few
resources and quickly disappearing memories.
There is a mass (overload?) of resouces for 1990's manufacturers.
I have updated the BJ entry to read...
B.J. Surfboards
1974
1976 Botany NSW
Bob Hanson, Richard Evans;
1977 Kevin McKell and Rob McLaggan;
1979 Richard Evans;
azza wrote, January 2004 (edited)... B.J surfboards they actually started
in 1974, ... my dad still has his board
in our garage that he got made in 1974.Thanks to azza.
Can you confirm...
1. Dad's board purchased from Botany address.
I think this factory was used by another surfboard maker at some time.
2. A decal scan would be great (oversized - I can always resize down
to fit, but not up).
3. Does the board have a shaper decal or markings, or can Dad recall
either Bob Hanson, Richard Evans
I have updated the BJ entry to read...
Crozier Surfboards
Mona Vale NSW
1970 ?
Shapers Chris Crozier;
1972
Shapers Peter Crawford;1976
Shapers Paul Connors;
1979
Shapers Chris Crozier;
azza wrote, January 2004 (edited)...Crozier boards, they're still going
today.
My mate's uncle is Russell Crozier who still shapes occasionally.
Chris Crozier died in the late 80's i think he said (i have to check
that out again).
Various people are shaping for them at the moment.Thanks to azza.
Can you confirm...
1. Chris's date of demise.
2. Did Russell shape/glass/sand boards in the 1970's?
These entries online at next major upload, Feb-March 2004.
Thanks,
Geoff
AzzA wrote:
hey dude, hows it going?i'm just writing in relation to your
surfing webpage, the shapers index pages...They look pretty good,
you've got heaps of info on there..I just thought i'd let you
know a little more about some board shapers. First of all, with B.J
surfboards they actually started in 1974, the only reason i
know this is because my dad still has his board in our garage that he
got made in 1974, i'll take a photo of the logo on the bottom
of the board for your archives aswell.Secondly with Crozier boards,
they're still going today. My mates uncle is russel crozier
who still shapes now occasionally. Chris Crozier died in the late 80's
i
think he said (i have to check that out again). Various people
are shaping for them at the moment, they make real good boards.
I'm getting one made up for my old man right now..just htought
i'd let you know a little of what i know,
cheers!azza
maddock,
Yes, slipped up here.
Johhny Rhodes and Tony Nichols Surfboards decal is/was online at Catalogue
#200 - supplementary
images, awaitng filing but was missed.
Also muli stringer model circa 1966 online at Appendix, Design and
Decor - Stringers.
Both of these images and text below added to Manufacturers Index J
Johhny Rhodes and Tony Nichols Surfboards
1962 ?
Cronulla Surf Shop
77 Street Cronulla, Sydney
maddock wrote, January 2004 (edited)...
John Rhodes, a local Cronulla surfboard maker.
He shaped my first new board in 1962.
Thanks to maddock.
Image below...
Detailed stringers by John Rhodes/Tony Nicholas Sufboards,
circa 1966
This entrie online at next major upload, Feb-March 2004.
Can you confirm...
1. your first board from above address
2. A Rhodes/Nichols decal
3. John also worked for many other shops, any ideas.
4. Know anything about Tony Nichols
Thanks for the info,
Geoff
maddock wrote:
Hi Geoff. Have just found your surfresearch website, and
its alphabetical listing. I used to live at Cronulla in
1950s-60s, and surfed at numerous breaks in the Cronulla area.
I notice that your alphabetical listing doesn't
include John Rhodes, a local Cronulla surfboard maker.
He shaped my first new board in 1962, and was on
the local surfing scene as surfer and boardmaker for several
years.
regards,
John
Don,
Thank you for your email.
Images, and dimensions if possible, are most welcome.
Please have a look at ...
http://www.surfresearch/00000000s.html
I am obviously interested in older craft, especially the early Val Valentine w/Greg Noll logo.
Also familiar from US magazines with Ron Romonosky and his Romonosky Kneeboards.
Suggest you also have a look, if you have not done so already, at...
Rod Rodgers: My Paipo Boards and ...More.
Many thanks,
Geoff.
Don Long wrote:
I stumbled onto your website this afternoon for the first time.
Really enjoyed all the research you've done,
especially the digitals of
the old Paipos, and other prone riding vehicles. I also forwarded
your website and links to a good friend of
mine, Ron Romonosky
of (Romonosky Kneeboards). My 27 year old Son, David Long, and
I have quite a collection of old paios
(including a very early Val
Valentine w/Greg Noll logo), early bodyboards, handguns, and
knee boards. Wondered if you'd like us to
forward some digitals
documenting some of our collection? Maybe add a few to your
history list? Keep up the good work! Don R.
LongPagosa Springs
COdonlongpi@centurytel.netCA Native Formely of San Clemente
CA
Subject:
Re: Surf Kayak & Canoe
Date:
Tue, 03 Feb 2004 19:02:04 +1100
From:
geoff <realbeds@shoalhaven.net.au>
To:
Greg Barlow <gpb@lawsocnsw.asn.au>
References:
1
Greg,
Thank you for yor positive comments.
Unfortunately I have massive technical difficulties at present.
Unususual request, but if you could delay your reply for several
weeks, it would help.
I have copied your information and will load it into the page
at a later date.
Thank you for the canoe/kayak images.
Brief confirmation/questions...
1. canvas models circa ?
2. Ken Barlow/canoe/Era image - canvas model? approximate photograph
date?
3. Ply covered version circa? Resoration and photograph circa1968?
4. Does this craft still exist? (sorry if this emotionally difficult).
5. re surf kayak/ski - were you aware of a US ski rider Merv
Larson in this period, 1968-1970?
6. crazy to have a compartment that could fill up with water
so started making Skis - you may be interested to
know that surf kayaks have been used most extensively in
Scotland and Ireland, where they use the waterproof skirt (correct
term?) to kep the water out - and probably
10mm wetsuits!
Era coincidence - this week came across last year's Surf Life
Saving Club annual report, with excellent Reg
Mombasssa grahic on the back cover, courtesy of John
McInnes.
Many thanks,
Geoff.
Greg Barlow wrote:
Hi,<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
Came across your site and think it is very impressive and a great idea, before the history dies.
Saw the Surf Kayak and thought I might give you some info of mine.
My father Ken Barlow had surf canoes, made out of fine timber
ribs with canvas stretched over then painted to
remain water tight. See photo Surf canoe.JPG which
was taken down in the National Park at ERA. Then came the ply
covered version. The one in the pic is one I
restored in about 1968.
Then came the surf Kayak which I designed to suite the surf more
with a flat bottom and hard rails. This was in
1968.
I then sold it to a canoe club who made moulds and started producing
a few. I thought it was craze to have a
compartment that could fill up with water so started
making Skis. I made about 4 with Nipper Williams which was short
and similar to modern versions
Hope this is of interest and fills in a few gaps
Keep up the good work
Greg Barlow
Subject:
Re: COOLITES
Date:
Tue, 03 Feb 2004 19:46:59 +1100
From:
geoff <realbeds@shoalhaven.net.au>
To:
Glenn Minards <elrayoex@chariot.net.au>
References:
1
Glen
Sorry about the lost board, but in the War between the Sexes there
are bound to be casualties.
Yes, Coolites were in use in the 1960's.
"Polystyrene foam was first marketed circa 1958 in Australia as a low-cost
portable insulated
food or beverage container, brand name ‘Coolite’. The first boards
bore the 'Coolite' brand "
These were in several models with the Coolite label...
Small (Kick) Board approx. 2ft 6''
Small Surfboard - 4ft 6'' with a single long base with moulded 2''
keel
Large Surfboard - 7 ft 5'' - (mgf by Hardy Rubber Co. L/P)
This were all rather thin and existing examples are very rare.
In mid sixties, the familiar thick, about 4 1/2'' x 5 ft 6'' models
were introduced.
These were marketed with very little design variation circa 1966 to
1978 under many model names.
An example, although late 1970's it still uses Coolite brand, is...
http://www.surfresearch/00000088.html
This is illustrated by the riding photo from Margan and Finney p157
at the bottom of the Farrelly page.
The Farrelly was a design variation, however the thickness was
still substantial.
Thickness of plus 4'' seems required to given the board some strength,
due to the lack of a stringer.
Hope this has been of some assistance.
Unfortunately I have massive technical difficulties at present...
An unususual request, but if you could delay your reply for several
weeks, it would help.
Geoff
Glenn Minards wrote:
Glenn MinardsSouth Australia I am a surfer now aged 52 living
on the south coast of South Australia. I spent
the first 9 years of my life having summer holidays on the northern
beaches of Sydney because that is where I
was brought up. I was looking for some information on the original
coolite foam surfboards and found your
site..Forgive me if I am wrong, but I remember seeing a different
type of coolite board in the early 60's that
was stamped with the coolite brand , that was much thicker than
the one shown on your site. All the yougsters
had them in the surf at Manly ,Narrabean,Collaroy,Dee Why and
so on. They were very stable and were
perfect for learning to stand up.Midjet Farrelly,s coolite was
a different thing all together.The reason I am so
interested is that I used to spend hours watching the young
kids sufing these thick coolites and one summer
after we had left the golden sands of NSW and gone to live in
the cold surfless state of SA and we returned
for a Christmas summer holiday to Narrabean . I had put
in a request for a coolite from Santa , the big thick
one you could stand on and all I got was the cheap thin copy.
I was heartbroken. I never let on though. Years
later ,as an adult I found one ,the only one I had ever seen
since those long summer days in Sydney . I TOOK
IT OUT FOR ONE SURF AND ONE ONLY DURING A DAY AT THE BEACH WITH
A GIRL I WAS GOING
OUT WITH. I TOOK IT TO HER PLACE AFTER GOING TO THE BEACH.THAT
WEEK WE HAD AN
ARGUMENT , I went around later to get my things and she had
had the bob cat in the back yard and sent my
coolite to the dump in 2 pieces.Do you have any information
on the coolite I am referring to.
Regards.................Glenn Minards
[not the one that went to the dump]
Subject:
Re: Query
Date:
Tue, 03 Feb 2004 20:30:57 +1100
From:
geoff <realbeds@shoalhaven.net.au>
To:
Tom Schnabel <tom.schnabel@comcast.net>
References:
1
Tom,
Nice job and excellent surf resume.
Sorry, the request is about as obscure as they come.
If I can locate publishing details, I will attach, but thus would be
a rare item.
I would think the photo possibly would have been reprinted in some
later book or magazine, but without the
photographer could be even harder to trace.
Alamoana was apparently a very popular photo location in the early
1960's.
Geoff.
Closest book I can find around this date on Daved Marsh's Waterlog...
http://www.surfwriters.com/index.htm
Masters, Ted. : Surfing Made Easy.
Masters-Graham Publications, Van Nuys, CA:1962.
66 page booklet edited by Hobie Alter, with illustrations by Bob Graham.
Tom Schnabel wrote:
Dear Geoff & Surf Research,
I used to be an avid surfer, did the pipeline in 63, Sunset with
Mickey Dora in 64, freak
winter swell in 64 @ Castle Surf in Waikiki with Mickey Munoz
et al.
There was once a little magazine-type book, I think published
by Greg Noll around 1961,
that showed Alan Gomes at Alamoana on the most amazing left.
Can you tell me how to
get ahold of this photo?
Many thanks and kind regards,
Tom Schnabel
Program Director, World Music
Hollywood Bowl / Walt Disney Concert Hall
Producer, Café LA, KCRW
tom.schnabel@comcast.net
tom.schnabel@kcrw.com